imperial commander was primed for that race at haydock, kauto was no where near fully fit...it was near enough heavy at haydock, i was there! the key to kauto is keeping him fresh and for gold cup day he will be deadly, the year denman beat kauto was because kauto ran 4 weeks before at ascot and wasnt fresh enough for chelt. 2009 race denman and neptune collonges finished near enough the same distance between them as in 2008 but kauto improved past them both for not having a race 4 weeks before ..
thats my theory anyway!!

got 7/4 on kauto so happy now hes as short at 4/5.

todays racing

kings counsel . 2.50 catt.. 7/1 visor fitted this time, hopefully bring out the extra improvement. backed e/w

king in waiting .3.50 catt 11/1 quite a big price, if its not too soft at catterick, going chasing soon with this one.

I don't disagree with what you say with regards to the build ups to the race. Like I say, it will take some spectacularly heavy ground for Denman, but to completely rule out the ground is naive IMO.

Plus I've seen as short as 4/7 about Kauto Star tbh. I'm not too concerned about missing out on a slip with 7/4 on it, can't back such favourites Ante-post with any confidence. Haven't got any bets going into the festival this year and only had 1 in the previous 2 years which ran and won at 14/1, 7/1 on the day.

Anyone catch the 2.30? I was thinking of a small bet on My Les, saw it came second, interested to know how it went (elected to buy a sandwich instead).

hope you were on



got another in the last leolene starlight at 66/1 but that might be asking abit much!

Nicee

Good shouts brearley84

I once read your post on here regarding a bet, and you had posted something along the lines of.....I wish my financial situation was good enough to have been able to put some money on that.

If you're still in Sheffield, I will meet on Gold cup day and empty my copper jar for you to have a few bob on the horse of your choice. Don't want your year to be ruined by regret do we now.

Excellent stuff again, great to see the winners keep coming!

Been too busy to look earlier or have a bet, but happy to see people caning the bookies...

I've see much worse 6/5 shots than Charlton at Bristol Rovers tonight and although Charlton have been in a bit of a poor run of late I strongly fancy them to bounce back tonight and have far too much for BR, I've had an interest...

Having a bad 48 hours?

I'll be at the Festival for the Gold Cup, I'll be cheering on Quato Star hoping it hoses up for you.

Tail Of The Bank 9/2 Newcastle 2.10

Real Madrid 11/10 v Lyon

Singles and double

On a side note, do people know about the new promotion William Hill have been doing lately. Place a tenner on a horse (in a specific race), and if it loses, you get a free 5pound to play on the gaming machine. That's the jist of it I think anyway.

Now contrary to some peoples opinions, some people who go in the bookies are intelligent people, and as soon as the promotion was on the screen, someone shouted out "OHH GREAT, THERE TRYING TO GET YOU ADDICTED TO MACHINES NOW".
There are however people who are not so intelligent and they are the ones that are targeted and they are the ones that place the bets (on races they wouldn't usually target) and at prices they usually wouldn't, but do just further incentives (free bets) etc.
It is of my opinion that William Hill would like as many people addicted to the machines as possible, contrary to what they may say in the media as responsible gambling. Now I''m not suggesting bookmakers should make a pledge to be the most ethical company in Britain, but you could argue that they do have a sense of responsibility.


Anyone got any opinions on this? Or am I just passing time in my break with a rant into something that isn't there.

fashion icon. 2.00 southwell 33/1 skybet (although that has now gone) stable expecting a return to form
transonic. 3.30. southwell 9/2 coral won easy last time, gone up 6lb and in a better race but 5lb claimer on today and the way it won last time ive got to be on it side again!

Money in the bank more like.

I'll come clean, I follow you two each day now.

[Wire_85 and Brearley84

I only had £20 in my account today, so I've edge a bit, could have been daft, should have picked one or the other, couldn't sperate you.

I've had £8 on your winner in the 2.10 & £8 on Brearleys in the 3.30, and a £4 double.

So I'm up regardless, not big money like, but if the second one loses, I'll be castigating myself for not being a little more decisive.

Seriously though fellas, some outstanding stuff you two put forward, I always look on here now and follow you fellas, whilst you don't mind like, keep 'em coming, it's magic.

Just been given Catleen in the next at Newcastle 7/4

Went the wrong way!

Happy to help a fellow Wire

that was bad from the jockeys taking the wrong course!

tail of the bank won really well, they seem to be expecting abit more from this one in future... didnt make the trip up to newcastle for nothing

Jason Maguire on Seedless led them the wrong way the tit

I didn't really take much notice of it travelling although it was a plus I had it clear of the rest on past form some real good up and coming horses its been close to and its NHF form was right up there, jockey took 3lbs off, it went well on heavy in the race with Quantitativeeasing, seemed to try and duck out of that hurdle when it fell 3 out.

Just need Kaka an co to bring home my other single and the double which is 9/1

Shout

Fancy setting up a tipping line

My heroes.

thought it was beat when it got headed but battled back well !

im up for that .. better start charging

'rltips.com' ha

well done JWP .. got the double..

What odds was the double JWP? should be a very nice pay out from that.

Then £80 for the two wins, so i'm pleased as punch like.

Just finished a study on the corporate social responsbility (CSR) of William Hill, Ladbrokes and Coral. All 3 have to include CSR in their business practices as per the Gambling Act (2005). The CSR certainally not embedded in any of the 3 organizations but this is not a surprise since they only started bothering because they were forced into it. Out of the 3, I would say that Coral are the worst, and only undertake CSR for the benefits of their business activities. They make donations to random charities that have no links to their business whatsoever. One of the funniest things I read about was that Coral donated money to a primary school to fund their breakfast club - wonder if they threw in a couple of free bets with that?