Davies isn't good enough to play for England.

The fact Davies may be in better form than Heskey at the moment is irrelevant. Heskey, for all of his faults, is an experienced international. To pick Davies now, a novice in relative terms, would be madness.

So, to sum up I wouldn't pick Davies for England because:-

a) He isn't good enough;
b) He has no experience

Good enough?

Ireland could well end up being Man Citys Frank Lampard. When the investment arrived at Chelsea, he was an established Premierhsip player sure, but Chelsea fans were still struggling to understand the £11m tag etc. Under Ranieri and Mourinho he & JT became one of the most important people to Chelsea, and whilst plenty of other 'stars' came & went, they became the consistency, that everything was built around, and Lampards game improved, and he became a 20 goal man etc, I know folk don't rate him, but for Chelsea, for the last 5 years he's been immense.

Ireland has all the ingrediants to be a top player, if City become a top four club, he's one of the few they have capable of improving with them so to speak, and taking his game on. When I've seen him at times this year, he's been excellent.

Oh, and he needs to end his ROI exile.

Not really.

a) Matter of opinion. Even your own comments don't support that.
b) So we pick experience over form. We have friendlies, what the hell are they for?

To get David Beckham more caps

Good point. He could end up with 200.

David James is outscoring Heskey.

Could get more if we stick him in net

There's more chance of Robinho having a good game away from home than EE admiting his opinion isn't always the correct one.

You say Davies isn't good enough, but I put to you; Michael Ricketts.

Oh sweet jesus! I was hoping he'd been forgotten about. I know i've tried!

He reminds me of that Irish pundit, I can't remember his name but he always says 'a nothing player'.

You asked what he had to do to get an England call up. I said become a much better player. You hinted that I should explain. So I did.

He isn't good enough. Yes, that's my opinion. You often see those bandied about on internet message forums and I don't see the point in tagging 'IMO' at the end of each post to make that explicit.

However it would appear that my opinion is shared by the numerous England managers who choose not to select Davies for England and select numerous players in front of him. Maybe if there's some sort of flu epidemic he'll get a chance.

I accept that friendlies are about either trying players out or developing systems, tactics, that sort of stuff. However there's no point trying out players just for the sake of it if they're blatantly not good enough. Like Kevin Davies. He's a decent pro and I quite like him as a player - but if he's international class we really should pack in now.

We'll have to agree to disagree about his ability.



You refer to numerous managers who choose not to select him but I referenced his [icurrent [/iform which would indicate that I am talking about the [icurrent [/imanager not selecting him.



With respect, there are people who have and do pull on England shirts who are clearly not international class, but rather than pack it in perhaps we should try something different.

Spurs v City, cool. Makes a change from Utd v Liverpool

Eamonn "Odious little 2@" Dunphy?

EE and his Mrs are having the Ireland V Modric debate at home too.

I agree. But just because we've selected players who aren't good enough in the past doesn't mean we should compound it by doing it again. If someone was going to take a punt on Davies they should have done it years ago.

Not sure who you would leave out of the current squad for Davies. The 4 that are in there are much better players.*

*in my opinion

I've already answered that one.

That's him.

I'm not saying EE is that, but he does have that OTT style to his opinion.

I remember watching Dunphy on that video website saying Carrick was a nothing player.

Tickles me up...

Oi stop dissing a friend of mine....but yeah I do get your point

And I'll add Carlton Cole...Davies is better than him surely??

No argument from me.

Jesus, looks like I'm in a minority of one and everybody else is either:-

Happy that Davies is good enough for England; or
Thinks that it's OK to select [uanyone [/uyou like as long as we've selected someone worse in the past!*

You've all convinced me - Davies for England! Do you think we can get Philip Schofield to play in nets?

*(Although by the 'If the Neville's can play for England so can I' logic I must be due a call up soon)

You're not on your own, I agree wholeheartedly.

IMO Davies has never, still isn't, and in all likelihood will never be, either good enough for or suited to the international game.

No he isn't international quality. You can't argue that he grafts, but the simple fact is, he doesn't have that little bit extra that seperates the international class players from the rest.

Andy Cole could n't make it happen at international level and he was a far better goalscorer than Davies.