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| Quote ="Dan_FC"Not as near relegation as Royle did. He was given the time he deserved, why do you think Moyes was given time and Royle wasn't because the board know how good a managers Moyes is and they realised Royle isn't and wasn't going to take us anywhere.
If you think Joe Royle is a better manager than David Moyes then you are completely off your rocker. '"
I've never said that I think Royle is a better manager. Royle's management career has obviously been massively damaged by the fact the his career has nosedived spectacularly.
I'm just pointing out that getting all dizzy and saying Moyes is better than the Champions League and title winning Ferguson, Benitez and Ancelotti and title winning Wenger is stupid.
Moyes could end up with a similar career to Royle. He might not go down as far and as fast as Royle, but he hasn't achieved the highs that he did either.
Quote Again, Moyes has been backed with cash because the board know he is a good manager and has brought us some fantastic signings for next to nothing.'"
Moyes has been backed by Bill Kenright. Royle wasn't backed by Peter Johnson. What is your opinion of Peter Johnson?
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| Quote ="Lord God Jose Mourinho"I've never said that I think Royle is a better manager. Royle's management career has obviously been massively damaged by the fact the his career has nosedived spectacularly.
I'm just pointing out that getting all dizzy and saying Moyes is better than the Champions League and title winning Ferguson, Benitez and Ancelotti and title winning Wenger is stupid.
Moyes could end up with a similar career to Royle. He might not go down as far and as fast as Royle, but he hasn't achieved the highs that he did either.'"
Totally agree. You're spot on, i don't know who said Moyes was better than Ferguson and Ancelotti but you simply can't.
Quote ="Lord God Jose Mourinho"Moyes has been backed by Bill Kenright. Royle wasn't backed by Peter Johnson. What is your opinion of Peter Johnson? '"
Complete tw@ tbh. He was a joke of a chairman, but then again you expected me to say that ![Wink icon_wink.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_wink.gif)
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| Quote ="Robbie Rotten"I sometimes wonder if you read what you write'"
I rarely look out for results of reserve games. However, I am pretty sure you won the reserves league a couple of years ago with Gary Ablett as boss (I guess he is still managing the reserves).
We do well in the reserve league so I can understand where Oggy is coming from.
We won't talk about the Academy though as we have no peers in the north ![Wink icon_wink.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_wink.gif)
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| Quote ="Dan_FC"Totally agree. You're spot on, i don't know who said Moyes was better than Ferguson and Ancelotti but you simply can't.
Complete tw@ tbh. He was a joke of a chairman, but then again you expected me to say that
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Kenwright aint exactly held in high regard by a lot of everton fans.
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| Quote ="Enfield Exile"I rarely look out for results of reserve games. However, I am pretty sure you won the reserves league a couple of years ago with Gary Ablett as boss (I guess he is still managing the reserves).
We do well in the reserve league so I can understand where Oggy is coming from.
We won't talk about the Academy though as we have no peers in the north
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You have two reserve teams, or something like two reserve teams, I remember it being mentioned when we played you once.
Ablett ain't boss anymore, he's left.
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| I'm surprised city and everton fans are arguing on this thread considering their similarities:
Both in the shadows of big city neighbours,
Both try to claim they have the most local fans to deflect attention away from lack of success on the pitch.
Both struggle to fill the ground for midweek games despite all their support living within walking distance of their stadium.
Etc, etc..............
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| Quote ="Eurob0y"Kenwright aint exactly held in high regard by a lot of everton fans.'"
Clueless them people though.
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| Quote ="Karlos13"I'm surprised city and everton fans are arguing on this thread considering their similarities:
Both in the shadows of big city neighbours,
Both try to claim they have the most local fans to deflect attention away from lack of success on the pitch.
Both struggle to fill the ground for midweek games despite all their support living within walking distance of their stadium.
Etc, etc..............'"
Do we? and ALL our fans live in walking distance do they? what a pathetic dig.
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| Lmao and united fans wonder why everyone hates them. Its for silly littl comment about the last 1 you made
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| Quote ="Robbie Rotten"You have two reserve teams, or something like two reserve teams, I remember it being mentioned when we played you once.
Ablett ain't boss anymore, he's left.'"
I watched the Liverpool/City reserves game on LFC TV a few months ago. I'm sure he was manager at the time. I guess he has left / been pushed since.
And yes we do have two reserve teams. We have so many players who are not Prem quality we have to create two teams for them ![Wink icon_wink.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_wink.gif)
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| Quote ="Karlos13"I'm surprised city and everton fans are arguing on this thread considering their similarities:
Both in the shadows of big city neighbours,
Both try to claim they have the most local fans to deflect attention away from lack of success on the pitch.
Both struggle to fill the ground for midweek games despite all their support living within walking distance of their stadium.
Etc, etc..............'"
![Laughing icon_lol.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif) Nice one.
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| Quote ="Enfield Exile"I watched the Liverpool/City reserves game on LFC TV a few months ago. I'm sure he was manager at the time. I guess he has left / been pushed since.
And yes we do have two reserve teams. We have so many players who are not Prem quality we have to create two teams for them
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Gary Tablet left just a couple of weeks ago. Ever since Rafa has signed his new contract, quite a few changes have gone on at the academy/Melwood.
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| Moyes is apparently trying to get Jo back on loan again for next season.
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| Quote ="Dan_FC"Moyes is apparently trying to get Jo back on loan again for next season.'"
£10m + Jo for the Klingon?
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| Quote ="Robbie Rotten"£10m + Jo for the Klingon?'"
I doubt it, I doubt Moyes would sell for only £10 mil plus Jo. I think he would be after more cash anyway. I imagine he is after just taking Jo and hoping Lescott's name isn't mentioned. Done a job on loan last season Jo 5 goals in 11, not bad.
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| Looked out of hes depth at City but then went on and scored goals at everton i think we will use him as a tool in the Lescott deal some how
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| Benzema to Madrid ssn
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| Quote ="Keyboard Warrior"Benzema to Madrid ssn'"
Fuming at United missing out on him!!!
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| Quote ="PIPO"Fuming at United missing out on him!!!'"
Same, are Madrid not happy with Ronaldo and Kaka ![Crying or Very sad icon_cry.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_cry.gif)
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| Quote ="oggy123"Looked out of hes depth at City but then went on and scored goals at everton i think we will use him as a tool in the Lescott deal some how'"
I don't think it would be part of any lescott deal anyway. Even if both transfers went ahead I don't think Moyes would have Jo in it because he would want just money and more of it.
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| Quote ="PIPO"Fuming at United missing out on him!!!'"
You'll feel worse if you throw your dummy out of the pram, so just suck on it.
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| Quote ="PIPO"Fuming at United missing out on him!!!'"
If he didn't want to come then there's only so much you can do...something which City are finding out with Kaka/Eto'o et al.
Just means we'll have to find another striker from somewhere else...I have some trust in Fergal finding the right man.
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| Quote ="OrdsallRed"If he didn't want to come then there's only so much you can do...something which City are finding out with Kaka/Eto'o et al.
Just means we'll have to find another striker from somewhere else...I have some trust in Fergal finding the right man.'"
Signing strikers from overseas appears to be a bloody lottery, as City fans will testify. Look at Drogba. His pedigree was no better than Jo's. However, Drogba is world class and Jo is way off.
I would take a chance on Fabiano though. Rooney and Fabiano? Sounds good to me.
Quote ="Dan_FC"I don't think it would be part of any lescott deal anyway. Even if both transfers went ahead I don't think Moyes would have Jo in it because he would want just money and more of it.'"
I think you're right. Jo is going to Everton on a season-long loan. Maybe that is part of the 'Lescott deal'.
I watched Benzema recently and he was poor. TBH I am not so sure how he would get on in the Prem. After all, he has been playing in a league that is pony.
Quote ="Robbie Rotten"Gary Tablet left just a couple of weeks ago. Ever since Rafa has signed his new contract, quite a few changes have gone on at the academy/Melwood.'"
From the outside looking in, he never appears to be happy with what's going on below first team level. Didn't he get rid of the Academy Director a couple of years (David Fairclough)?
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| Quote ="Enfield Exile"I think you're right. Jo is going to Everton on a season-long loan. Maybe that is part of the 'Lescott deal'.'"
It seems like Jo is on his way here, he did well enough last season on loan and i'm sure he can do it again, 5 goals in 11, not a bad return. Just hope this doens't see Lescott move in the other direction.
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| Quote ="Sthelens RLFC"It still has the potential to be a disastrous off season for us. I'd take not signing another player and sticking with what we have tbh as the alternatives of losing Masch and/or Alonso will undo the work Rafa has been doing moulding the team. In an ideal world we will lose Leto (signed and sealed, roughly £3m) Dossena (£5. No not, £5m, £5.) and Babel (£7m) and buy Silva as Rafa has already said we have money to buy a player without having to sell.'"
Defo one will go could even be both but Rafa did say after the Johnson signing we could sign one more player without selling anyone.
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