In most cases, yes.

He's a good player, nothing more, nothing less. Works hard, puts in a lot of tackles and gets himself around the pitch very well. I think at times you get carried away with your criticism of players, you might not rate some, but you go a little OTT IMO.

EE gets his sly dig in here people. This is the attempt to get a reaction.



Stephen Ireland more impressive than Modric this season ? Okay Mr Manchester City supporter. We'll take your word for it, although I suspect you may be the only person on earth to have this view.



King has never been a central midfielder, hence why he didn't impress there. I won't entertain the nonsense that he can't pass or carry the ball. Fancy one of the best attackling midfielders on earth making a centre half playing out of position look silly eh ? Who eva wud a thunk it ?



Marginally ?????!!!! Bwahahahaha. Try watching some of Tottenham before commenting.



Ferdinand is marginally better with the ball at his feet. King isn't prone to the lapses of concentration that Ferdinand is on the other hand. Ferdinand hasn't nearly had his career finished either. King is on a par with the bloke without training all week.



What are you talking about ? He was injured so couldn't play, now he is obviously improving due to the lack of midweek football.



Again, I would suggest you actually watch some Tottenham games before making yourself look silly by posting about them on here.

I'd actually agree with him there, he's been very influential in a struggling CIty side and I think Modric has failed to shine in all honesty.

Ireland has had a decent season and whilst I'd agree Modric hasn't been massively great this year, he has shown the glimpses of talent that suggest he is indeed going to be a top player. They have both made 7 assists with Ireland scoring more goals.This has to be countered as well with how poor in general we were all over the park early this year and also that Modric has played out of position all season. He has been top quality on a couple of occasions this year still and I am hoping we can hold onto the guy, top little player.

Also to be considered is that this year is his first in the Premiership after a change of scenery. I would suggest in years to come that Ireland won't be fit to wipe Modric's backside.

Ireland>Modric

Minutes applause planned for Hillsborough at chelsea and nal semi what a stupid idea, applause for death of fans? And why only at this semi? Should be left to Liverpool matches only and certainly not applause IMO.

I've no doubt Modric is a better player but you said that Ireland hadn't been more impressive so kind of going against your own post.

All in all, I don't think he has.

Modric has had to adapt to a completely new place whilst being played out of position and put in the kind of performance against Chelsea that Ireland could only dream of. He has the same number of assists whilst Ireland has scored more goals.

Why should it only be Liverpool matches? It was a tragedy that affected the entire footballing world which is something you probably won't remember to be fair, the images on the news and in the papers the days after we're very upsetting even for fans of other clubs.

Could be because as a match goer I have seen and heard the bile that other fans come out with about Hillsborough and would rather it was left to us, the applause it just weird why not a minutes silence?

I'd go for Ireland over Modric every day of the week on this seasons form.

More than likely!



Bassong has been far and away our best player this season. That top three stinks of being chosen by know-nothing 'outsiders'.

You have actually heard it yourself? Why should all other fans be tarnished with the same brush as those who want to give it the memorial it deserves.

Like Ashley Young then.




You don't, but you're heading towards that number if you want to gather a [ireal[/i opinion about someone's game. I personally think it's a little daft judging a player in a handful of games, I'd rather judge them over a sustained period.


Strange, because I recall giving my opinion on Johnson, but it didn't match up with your opinion of him being 'class' so I therefore 'didn't have a clue' about him, apparently.


Again though, in your opinion. I don't see why Johnson's strengths in your opinion are exactly what his strengths are. I listed what I thought his strengths were and some of them even matched yours. But because I noticed other parts of his game and probably missed some too, I automatically didn't know anything about him and couldn't debate about it. I'd expect you to know more about him because you see him more than I do. I think he's a good player like I mentioned on several occasions before but I'd prefer Anderson in my team. I don't see how that makes my opinion of his game wrong or inaccurate.

How can I debate with you about Beye when you've posted utter bile about him which simply isn't true? His tackling and technique are his two biggest assets but according to you he doesn't know how to tackle and has no technique. You chose to slate him for his two biggest assets which makes you look more than a little silly.


A tea towel wouldn't respond, thus being more sensible than some of your comments.

Yes I have seen and heard it like I said in my last post, not all fans are the same I know that but applause is wrong IMO should be silence or nothing the FA, LFC and HFSG have got this wrong.

Me too.

Ireland is a better passer, he's an excellent defender and has a great engine.

Modric is like a rag doll. He's been effective in about 3 games.

I get what you mean, I think it's aimed more at celebrating their lives more than anything.

And being a deluded Spuds, I got you. I guess that means you lack intelligence too.




Ireland is a better passer, better infront of goal, far superior defender and has a better engine.

Your delusional rantings know no bounds.




You said he was a ‘footballer’, intimating that he was skillful. I simply pointed out that he is a defender, and as a typical defender is a poor passer of the ball and is ineffective with the ball. He is far more effetive when he is without the ball.




Seen them more tha you, sadly. Your upturn in form has as much to do, if not more, with some presence in midfield (i.e. Wilson Palacios), Lennon’s form, Keane’s return and Bent’s mini-renaissance.


Where were you sat at WHL on Saturday? I was in the North Stand (bet you don’t even know the name that fans give to that stand), three seats away from the Block 19 entrance.



Marginally better? Are you going for understatement of the year?

Ferdinand is as skillful as any English footballer. He can do far more with the football than King could ever do.

King isn’t prone to lapses of concentration. Do I need to remind you of the two lapses King made this season that led directly to goals? I probably will have to as you don’t watch them very often.



What are you talking about ? He was injured so couldn't play, now he is obviously improving due to the lack of midweek football.

He’s been takinga wage knowing that he will never be fit enough to train and play more than once a week. All Spurs supporters know as a fact that King’s knee will never recover to allow him to play more than once a week.





You have made yourself look silly by saying that Ferdinand is only marginally more skillful than King? Not to mention you going on about Modric on the basis of about 3 decent games.

What pub do you drink in before the games?

I went on Saturday, and have to say that appart from the goal, he did very little. Howegver, Harry's mates in the press made sure he go the plaudits. maybe you coudl list four or five things he did on Saturday. I'm all ears.

Ireland could blow that out of the water with about 15 of his performances this season. Try Schalke away and Arsenal at home as examples.

Your comment is an embarrassment.




Interesting that you use those stats, with Ireland being a mdfielder and Modric playing in a more advanced role. Ireland has consistently produced chances each season, and looks far more dangerous than Modric when he has the ball. He's only a kid and this is his first season playing in central midfield. Although this season he has been forced to play on the left and the right at times (e.g. Fulham away).

Ireland has looked better than Modric throughout the season. That's clear to all. Whether it's with or without the ball.

Modric was built up by Slaven Billic. He's not top quality, and never will be. Didn't you say the same about Dos Santos? Is he still at Ipswich?

Oh please EE, do behave with the immature insults. It really isn't necessary, we've all gathered that you don't watch Tottenham and therefore have crazy views on them to air.




A better passer ?!?!?!?! The better engine and defender maybe but everything else is nonsense.



Pot, Kettle and Black.




He has the ability to get the ball down and give a simple pass. He is also handy at making ground up the field with the ball, albeit lesser so since his injury. By the way, I have never intimated that King is skillful, maybe in your mind.




You posted Palacios cant pass, shoot etc yet now he is a factor in our upturn ? Make your mind up cockle. Certainly Lennon and Keane, not convinced with this renaissance from Bent, I haven't seen it.




Congratulations. Why were you as a Manchester City supporter at WHL to watch Spurs ?
I live in Scotland by the way, don't get down to watch them very often.




2 lapses of concentration in an entire season ? Hold the phone !!!!!
Sorry I'm still laughing that Ferdinand is as skillful as [iany[/i English footballer.




He probably won't. However Spurs choose to pay him his wage because he is invaluable to us and despite his injuries, the manager of England has just tried to call him up so he is therefore still considered in the best English centre halves.




I never even mentioned King and skillful in the same sentence you silly drama queen, you made this argument up. Modric equals Ireland in all but goal scoring in his first season in a new league and playing in the wrong position all season in a poorly performing side. I am not even going to debate Luka Modric and Stephen Ireland, stupid argument.

What pub do I drink in ?!?!?!?! What are you on about ?

You are in no position to call anyone deluded.

Is there anyone on this thread that doesn't have beef with Enfield Exile?

I dont have a beef with him, I just think hes a good source of humour.

Wonderfully reasoned argument there.



The current England manager is picking Heskey - Davies is on current form the much better player and (despite being used out wide on occasions) is outscoring Heskey.