The sooner Terry is dropped the better, he has been sh*t for the past few months, and carried that into last night's game.

You Rags / OOT Rags still bitter about the treatment of Neville?

I can maybe understand others not supporting England as they are not patriotic. However, to want your country to lose is a bit odd. This kind of thing only seems to happen in England.

Ignore him. He thinks that he will look more of a United fan if he pretends he doesn't support England. I'd imagine he wore Argentina shirts, and saing ARGENTINA toward Tevez.



England look as confused as ever in midfield. I can't pretend to know more than Capello, Eriksson and McC....ok, Capello and Eriksson but why Gerrard is being asked to play this roving role where he is of no use to anyone is beyond me. He needs to play behind Rooney is a 4-4-1-1. There's still room for Lampard in that side against lesser opposition but against the big guns I'd drop another defensive midfielder in alongisde Barry. The other option is to go 4-4-2 and drop one of Gerrard and Lampard because playing Gerrard out of position is helpful to no-one.

Hart

Johnson
Terry
Ferdinand
Cole

Lennon
Lampard (Gerrard)
Barry
Milner

Gerrard (Crouch)

Rooney

Would be my best XI.

I would favour that team. That team has balance.

I sincerely hope Johnson comes back from injury and plays a part because Brown has to be the worst right-back I have seen play for England. Terrible footballer.

I have to admit I wasn't impressed with baines at all. His crossing was poor and he never seemed to want to take the initiative. I also hope that if he plays for England again, he worries more about his own positioning than that of the centre-halves. Doesn't look international quality to me. I would rather see Warnock or Shorey selected ahead of him.

There's either alot of trolls on here, alot of retard muppets on here, or alot of knee jerking jerks on here.

Lampard misses two chances and suddenly he isn't good enough? Give me a f-cking break! The guy has been awesome for England these past few years.

Those that boo'd Terry are complete goose mongers, so typical of our mongey fans to boo one of our best players, in a home game, months away from a World Cup finals. Who actually thought that was a good idea? And who honestly thinks he shouldn't be in the team? Hasn't he been in the World 11 for the past 2/3 years? Yeah, he's totally sh.it that guy. As soon as he gets his head off the beach and back on the pitch we'll see the JT of old.

Don't know how Capello can look past Crouch now, what does he have to do to get a start!? 'Rooney needs someone to play off' 'Rooney needs a big man to hold it up for him' - No he doesn't. WE need 2 goal scoring strikers if we're gonna have a chance of winning the WC. And Crouch looks like he's the man to do that. His record is extremly impressive.

I thought Walcott looked a little rusty and needs afew more games to get back to his best, which is expected, Milner should have started for me. Never rated Carrick. Gaz Baz played really well, again, was probably MOM until Crouch sorted that one out. SWP made himself another wide man who'll be hard to ignore come WC time.

I do wish he'd pick the team on club form though and drop some of the big names from time to time. Especially in friendlies like last nights, it was all our subs who changed the game for us.

I'd go;

Hart

Johnson
Terry
Rio
Cole

Barry
Lampard

Lennon - Milner

Gerrard (Crouch)

Rooney


There's quite abit of football left and form/injuries can change that. I bet Rooney gets injured and we have daily updates in the paper, with a picture of his foot that we all have to rub to madjikally make it better in time.

It always comes down to City and Utd with you, it's pathetic.

Barry has done well for England and deserves his place at present but Carrick did make a difference last night. He pulls the strings of the side like he does for Utd. Admittedly he was poor at the beginning of the season but when he plays Utd are at their best and is a must for the WC squad imo.

Bit harsh possibly? That would be Baines' first time playing under Capello? His first time with those centre backs? His first time in that formation and system? His crossing is fine and, if allowed by the tactics employed, is the best attacking left back in the country behind Cole and Evra. He's the form left back in the country, his performances against United, Chelsea and City recently were stellar.

You suggest he's not international class then opt for Warnock or Shorey? Cole is obviously the best left back, but Baines is surely next in line.

Anyone who plays for my team was brilliant for England...anyone who plays for our rivals..were rubbish!!!!

Shorey looked a lot more assured and confident when he played for England.

As for Shorey's crossing, you have to admit that it was poor last night

The only difference Carrick made was that he sat back on a few occasions so Barry pressed forward.

Crouch and SWP had a far more positive effect on the performance and the scoreline.

I am always suspicious by United fans when they cry about others being anti-United. I always feel it's because they need their ego massaging. It's as if you want me to gush about United.

You have to accept that not everyone loves the team you attached yourself to. It's something you are going to have to get used to. Every fan is biased but I have no qualms about lavishing praise on here for any players regardless of teh team they score. That includes the praise I have given to Ferdinand and Rooney. Because I don't rate scouse Mikey, Carrick and Anderson, doesn't mean I am biased. You need to stop playing the victim

Conversely, some people are unhappy because players from the team they support, were poor last night.

I don't want or expect people to praise Utd players whatsoever but lets face it the majority of your posts are always anti Utd or Spurs. Anyway I don't want to get into a penis measuring competition about it. Carrick has been at the heart of the side that has won the PL for the last three years and he is a very good player to have as backup to Gerrard, Lampard, Barry who seem to have their spots firmly cemented under Capello.

Insomnia and the internet is a wonderful thing sometimes, I managed to watch the France/Spain and Germany/Argentina games in full after England/Egypt.

There's nothing much more to say about Spain, they were on a different level to France and they weren't even at their most fluid best - the depth of their squad is frightening too, they took off Fabregas and Villa at half time and only had Xavi and Torres to replace them. Definitely the favourites, but everyone can have an off day and that's all it takes in the KO stage and you are gone, the defence still has question marks over it, but the problem is getting enough of the ball to test them.

France are way off the pace for me, Domenech couldn't seem do anything with them when they still had a smattering of world class players, now they have all but gone (or got old) there seems little chance of even a couple of players dragging them through to a decent finish like Zidane and Henry did in 2006.

The biggest surprise about Germany/Argentina is that, under Maradona, Argentina actually looked like a competent team for a change. Having seen a few of their qualifiers they played like a bunch of individuals with no idea what they were supposed to be doing as a whole, if last night wasn't a one off and they continue to build into a better unit for the tournament then they have every chance of doing well.

On the other hand Germany were disappointing, they didn't look like a team at all. I'm not sure if they were experimenting but there were a few players I wasn't familiar with and they didn't impress. Then again we all know that they are always a different proposition when it comes to the actual tournament.

Trying to be as unbiased as possible, I would say Carrick always looks a yard off the pace in mind and body against the big teams. When he has plenty of time to pick a pass there's not many better but when a snap decision/play needs making, he seems to get the ball taken off him or plays a stray pass. Premiership class but not international class for mine. If Hargreaves were fit, I wouldn't be taking Carrick to the World Cup.

He's not at the heart of the United team. Vidic? Yes. Fletcher? Yes. Rooney? Yes. Van De Saar? Yes. Ferdinand? Yes. Ronaldo? Yes. Carrick - squad player.

Carrick simply isn't good enough for England and this is reflected in the selections by the likes of Sven and Capello.

Domenech attempting to explain France's lethargic football by laying the blame for Thierry Henry's sub-standard performance at the feet of Barcelona

Carrick's more than a squad player. He's one of the first names on the team sheet. When he plays just behind Fletch and Scholes/Anderson he's class. He can also play well in a middle two, although at times this season when with just Scholes our midfield hasn't got into the game.

Hargreaves - Carrick - Fletcher/Anderson is a midfield that I look forward to seeing play.

A Lampard - Carrick - Barry midfield would work pretty well too IMO, but that obviously isn't going to happen.

www.independent.co.uk/sport/foot ... 15658.html Andy Cole on why he didnt get on with Sheringham. The bizarre thing is why nobody seems to have bothered sitting them down to sort it out.

www.independent.co.uk/sport/foot ... 15658.html Andy Cole on why he didnt get on with Sheringham. The bizarre thing is why nobody seems to have bothered sitting them down to sort it out.

My take on it. Andy Cole is clearly mental. His mentalism isn't affecting the team in any way, so you let it be.

I can understand Cole being miffed over his perceived snub, but he has to have some empathy with Sheringham as well in that situation. Sheringham's got similar feelings to Cole as to how much playing for England means, his substitution is likely to have been as unwelcome to Sheringham as it was welcome to Cole. I don't think Sheringham would've been snubbing Cole, he'd have just been massively upset over possibly losing his England place.

Put yourself in Sheringham's position when they were both at Man United. There's a sad fool who won't talk to you just because you don't shake his hand when he was replacing you. Would you want to be talking to that idiot? I wouldn't.

I think everyone knew that Cole and Sheringham didn't get on. I think most people will be shocked about just what a petty argument it was over. Andy Cole's a big girl IMO.

Why didn't he just ask Sheringham after the game why he didn't shake his hand instead of acting like a child about it.

EE will be knocking out another one over De Jong tonight.

He broke Stuart Holden's leg last night in a challenge which was far worse that the one which Ramsey broke his leg in. His punishment. A free kick. The ref was 5m from the the challenge. De Jong dived in, he was late, his studs went right into Holden's shin and the ref did nothing over it. Well done FIFA, you've really improved the standard of reffing.



Edit: He was booked. Stupid ESPN didn't show the booking, they must have been showing a replay of the incident at the time and only had notification of the card flash underneath the score.

Didn't watch England the other night was at the evening's premier football clash of FCUM v Ossett Town but Carrick has got on my nerves lately. He is so sideways it's criminal, his set piece delivery is generally dire, can't remember him taking control of a game this season. He is the definition of nothingness for me. In all honesty the same can be said for most of United's midfield apart from Fletcher and Giggs.

Quote ="Lord God Jose Mourinho"EE will be knocking out another one over De Jong tonight.'" The second best midfeilder in the world behing Micheal Johnson in EE's eye Oh and speaking of the tubby peice of lard Johnson www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... d-fan.html

Quote ="Lord God Jose Mourinho"EE will be knocking out another one over De Jong tonight.'" The second best midfeilder in the world behing Micheal Johnson in EE's eye Oh and speaking of the tubby peice of lard Johnson www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... d-fan.html

Baines wasn't poor. Graeme Le Saux said today on the radio that he was very impressed with him and it was a very impressive performance that should have pushed him to the front of the queue to backup Ashley Cole, praising his tactical discipline when those in the other defensive positions weren't doing so well (Upson and Brown).