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| Quote ="WANDERER"I know that I will be considered biased, but what does Kevin Davies have to do to get an England call-up?'"
Become a much better player?
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| Quote ="*jonny*"That bit about which leg you use to tackle is wrong. It depends on your stride, if you cannot afford to take another step, you have to tackle with whichever foot is free.'"
You have to wait when you are 'in stride'.
Quote As for calling Beye gash, that is so far from the truth it's unreal.'"
I'd love to know his strengths. He's as clueless as he looks gormless.
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| Quote ="ash4hullfc"Class player, based on...? Wayne Rooney is a class player, Xabi Alonso is a class player, Michael Johnson on the other hand...'"
Based on him virtually single-handedly carrying a poor Prem team into the top 4 for half a season. Then when he got injured, the team went to pieces.
Quote Again, based on what? I'd hazard a guess that you've seen very little of him (less than 30 games).'"
You don't need to watch 30 games to realise a player is poor. I like Bassong though.
If you need 30 games on which to base an opinion, then you can have no opinion of Michael Johnson. Have you actually seen Anderson play 30 times? I doubt it.
Quote When you realise your opinion isn't gospel, then it may be possible to have a debate. It's also easier to have a debate when you don't come out with bull comments, ala your reply above about Beye.'"
Spot the hypocrisy in the above post.
Quote It's the way you come across, like when I questioned your claim Johnson was far better than Anderson. I was wrong because my view didn't meet yours.'"
Your opinion may not have been wrong but the basis of your argument was inaccurate, thus I ridiculed you. You were not even aware of Johnson's trenths and waeknesses. How can I debate with someone who has a lack of knowledge about the subject?
Quote Talking to a tea towel would offer a lot more sensible comments than you do.'"
Tell me of a comment made by a teatowel? Monty Pythonesque, I know but it highlights how childish your statement really is.
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| Just been watching SSN, has Giggs really been [ithat[/i good to win PFA player of the year?
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| Quote ="Robbie Rotten"Just been watching SSN, has Giggs really been [ithat[/i good to win PFA player of the year?'"
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| Quote ="Robbie Rotten"Just been watching SSN, has Giggs really been [ithat[/i good to win PFA player of the year?'"
IMO if he wasnt playing for Man utd he wouldnt have been noticed
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| It would be a bit like when Scorcese won the Oscar for IMHO one of his weaker films. More of a probably deserved award for lifetime achievement rather than current performance.
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| Quote ="Robbie Rotten"Just been watching SSN, has Giggs really been [ithat[/i good to win PFA player of the year?'"
How many games has he started?
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| Quote ="Billy Banter"How many games has he started?'"
10 in the league
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| Quote ="Robbie Rotten"Just been watching SSN, has Giggs really been [ithat[/i good to win PFA player of the year?'"
No. He has had a good season relative to the past couple of seasons, but he isn't the best out there at the moment.
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| Quote ="Robbie Rotten"Just been watching SSN, has Giggs really been [ithat[/i good to win PFA player of the year?'"
1.Gerrard
2.Vidic
3.Lampard
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| Disappointed for Ledley King and for England.
I would go as far to say that hes the best central defender in the Premiership when at full tilt, he is that good. I don't think he'll ever be fit enough to play for England again but as a Spurs fan, as long as he can continually play for Tottenham then I'm happy.
Looking good Spurs are now, the addition of Palacios has made a huge difference, genuine top 5 contenders next season I think, especially with the addition of Downing or somebody down the left flank to free Modric to play behind a front one or two.
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| Quote ="Robbie Rotten"Just been watching SSN, has Giggs really been [ithat[/i good to win PFA player of the year?'"
He's been back to his best in the games he's played, and has been vital for us picking up three points instead of one. When he was getting a decent run in the side, he was one of our better players.
Still, I don't think he's done enough to win PotY, but I wouldn't be surprised if the PFA gave him the award TBH.
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| Quote ="Stirlingshire Saint"Disappointed for Ledley King and for England.
I would go as far to say that hes the best central defender in the Premiership when at full tilt, he is that good. I don't think he'll ever be fit enough to play for England again but as a Spurs fan, as long as he can continually play for Tottenham then I'm happy.'"
He aint a bad player, but he's far from the best in the PL.
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| Quote ="Nemanja"He aint a bad player, but he's far from the best in the PL.'"
Nonsense cockle, nonsense....he is immense. A phenomenal player who can do it all.
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| Quote ="Stirlingshire Saint"
I would go as far to say that hes the best central defender in the Premiership when at full tilt, he is that good..'"
I can't believe for one second you actually believe that.
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| Quote ="Robbie Rotten"Just been watching SSN, has Giggs really been [ithat[/i good to win PFA player of the year?'"
No. Sadly Ferguson has started to believe the hype regarding him playing in centre mid hence Utd's stumble.
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| Quote ="Tom Brady"I can't believe for one second you actually believe that.'"
It isn't difficult to believe in anyway.
King is an awesome central defender and always has been, its a shame his career is now limited due to his knee. He regularly receives the plaudits for his ability and prior to his injuries, it would have been a struggle for Spurs to hold onto the guy. He can do all the standard things a defender should be able to do as well as play football the proper way. He is integral to Tottenham, we are literally twice the side with him at centre half, it says it all when England still want him to play despite being told it isn't possible. What does that say about Capello's opinion of Terry and co ?
I am well aware the usual one eyed types on here will through the likes of Ferdinand, Vidic, Terry etc but you can keep them for me.
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| So FIFA have decided that a player has the right to avoid drug-testers in the off-season for the sake of their "privacy" and are refusing to sign up to the WADA doping code.
A stand for civil liberties, or an attempt to hide a drug issue in football?
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| Quote ="Stirlingshire Saint"It isn't difficult to believe in anyway.
King is an awesome central defender and always has been, its a shame his career is now limited due to his knee. He regularly receives the plaudits for his ability and prior to his injuries, it would have been a struggle for Spurs to hold onto the guy. He can do all the standard things a defender should be able to do as well as play football the proper way. He is integral to Tottenham, we are literally twice the side with him at centre half, it says it all when England still want him to play despite being told it isn't possible. What does that say about Capello's opinion of Terry and co ?
I am well aware the usual one eyed types on here will through the likes of Ferdinand, Vidic, Terry etc but you can keep them for me.'"
You seem very defensive today.
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| King is a fantastic player and alongside Rio, I think he's England's best. Rio has more 'class', but I'd say King does the dirty things better. It is a shame he's been so injury prone because he's a top player.
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| Top players play at the top. King doesn't.
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| Quote ="Robbie Rotten"King is a fantastic player and alongside Rio, I think he's England's best. Rio has more 'class', but I'd say King does the dirty things better. It is a shame he's been so injury prone because he's a top player.'"
Wow...a sensible poster on this thread.
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| Quote ="Stirlingshire Saint"
King is an awesome central defender and always has been, its a shame his career is now limited due to his knee. '"
He's a very good player, without doubt.
Quote He regularly receives the plaudits for his ability and prior to his injuries, it would have been a struggle for Spurs to hold onto the guy. He can do all the standard things a defender should be able to do as well as play football the proper way. '"
Shame he never got to prove himself at a big club.
Spurs players do seem to get favourable treatment in the press. Not sure why. Look at Modric. He's been appalling all season, and makes no more than one decent pass a game. Reading the press, you would think he is better than players who have been far more impressive e.g. Ireland.
Play football the proper way? King is no good at carrying the football or passing it. As was evident in his disastrous spell as a defensive midfielder in 2003/04 when Pleat was manager. He later played a couple of games for England in midfield. He looked good in one game and then Riquelme made him look pathetic in the following game.
Quote He is integral to Tottenham, we are literally twice the side with him at centre half, it says it all when England still want him to play despite being told it isn't possible. What does that say about Capello's opinion of Terry and co ?'"
Twice the side? I think you look a bit more solid at the back. He impoves you but only marginally.
Quote I am well aware the usual one eyed types on here will through the likes of Ferdinand, Vidic, Terry etc but you can keep them for me.'"
Ferdinand is far, far, far and away better than King. It's like comparing Robbie Keane with David Villa. Ferdinand is a better distributor and decision-maker, as well as superior in the air, on the ground King is marginally quicker than Ferdinand. That's the only thing he has over Ferdinand.
I think it's a disgrace that he was happy to pick up a wage when he couldn't train or play more than every other game.
I'm never surprised by delusional Spuds fans. At the moment, I have to listen to Spuds fans going on about Wilson Palacios. He can't tackle, pass or shoot. He's reminds me of an annoying bloke I used to play against in 5-a-side. He was a terrible footballer but he had a great engine and got in the way.
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