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| Quote ="Danny 2"if he was good i would agree but he really isnt'"
Mate you gotta search some old WCW footage from about '98, he really is good on the mic, if he seems annoying/irritating when talking these days I would say it's more down to the role WWE wants him to play.
In WCW and WWF/E he really has done some quality stuff (also search his p*$$taking of Stephanie during the Invasion days ). Always makes the best of a bad situation, performer of the year IMO.
Go Jericho go! (anyone who remember's his WWF debut might remember this chant he got going!
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| Quote ="Tony Catsmith"it was dibiase's younger brother.'"
Ah right, cheers. To be fair to Cena he did a good job of looking like it was a real fan and not planned. However, IMO Cena has gotta turn heel soon, how annoying is he getting now?!
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| in the old days i agree he was on top form
but i dont know he doesnt seem as good as he used to be tbh
i remember some of the Stephanie pi$$takes "you make the breast i mean best"
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| Quote ="Danny 2"in the old days i agree he was on top form
but i dont know he doesnt seem as good as he used to be tbh
i remember some of the Stephanie pi$$takes "you make the breast i mean best"
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Hey found out All-Star's at Grimsby on 25th Sept. However PWA are at the Trades & Labour Arena in Hull same night, so will have to make a choice.
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| Hey anyone been to any shows lately by the way?
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| Quote ="Danny 2"dear god hornsgle vs chavo AGAIN
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I'm guessing Chavo is on a large contract with no get out clause for WWE so they're trying to humiliate him until he quits
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| Advert for the "Fall & Rise of WCW" Outlining the stupid things Bichoff did... then follow that by another chavo v hornswaggle match, then the 70 year old head of the company pins the champion.
This week the main event is played in the arena after the show goes off air, with the guest host being on both sides. Is Pete Doherty doing the writing ???
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| i was just wacthing a match before on youtube and what a match it was the brood against the ministry it was actually believable and the storyline were good and intense not like the crap you get these days ;(
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| they should stop scripting promos. everyone sounds the same.
they should go back to giving the wrestlers points they have to get across and let them develop their own speaking style. might help people actually care about them if their not all spouting weak hack lines
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| Watched some great matches from the Rise and Fall.... DVD last night:
Rey Mysterio Jr v Dean Malenko (Cruiserweight title match)
Syxx v Eddie Guerrero (Ladder match for the US title)
Eddie Guerrero v Dean Malenko (US title match)
Superb high-flying and technical wrestling, easy to see why WCW was rated far superior for in-ring action from 96-98, the only negative was the lack of clean finishes (but I think this was the case generally during the Monday Night Wars).
Hate to say it but Mysterio is a fraction of the performer now that he was back then. Was so fast and agile. Will never understand why he decided to pack on so much muscle - it's slowed him down a lot IMO (thus making him a much less exciting/unpredicatable) wrestler, + personally I still can't take him seriously when he's a heavyweight title contender (and clearly a lot of other fans didn't when he was champ), so don't really see what he's gained.
Seriously, any fan of him check out his WCW matches from 96-99, and ECW from 95, it's almost like watching a different wrestler to the 'WWE Universe' version (bloody size-obsessed WWE ).
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| Quote ="Roofaldo"they should stop scripting promos. everyone sounds the same.
they should go back to giving the wrestlers points they have to get across and let them develop their own speaking style. might help people actually care about them if their not all spouting weak hack lines'"
Agree 100% mate. I think it was Road Dogg who said in a shoot interview that many wrestlers had a lot of creative control during the boom years. He said about literally walking down the aisle not knowing what he was going to say, but the spontiniety (sp) would bring out something personal/real and it worked - the fans could see it was genuine and believed in it.
I know Russo has his critics, but I do agree with his philosophy that often the key to getting a wrestler over is to pick out something real about them and blow it up, e.g. Steve Austin was a real redneck growing up, so playing the role would have felt a hell of a lot more natural (and thus came across that way) rather then the awful Ringmaster gimmick.
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| The new interncontinental champion is =white:jvzul0oyJohn Morrison at the PPV, in a Singapore Cane Match
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| Quote ="Roofs"Agree 100% mate. I think it was Road Dogg who said in a shoot interview that many wrestlers had a lot of creative control during the boom years. He said about literally walking down the aisle not knowing what he was going to say, but the spontiniety (sp) would bring out something personal/real and it worked - the fans could see it was genuine and believed in it.
I know Russo has his critics, but I do agree with his philosophy that often the key to getting a wrestler over is to pick out something real about them and blow it up, e.g. Steve Austin was a real redneck growing up, so playing the role would have felt a hell of a lot more natural (and thus came across that way) rather then the awful Ringmaster gimmick.'"
It wasn't Russo's philosophy. I've heard Micheal Hayes say it an awful lot of times that the best gimmicks are the guys themselves with part of their personality turned up to 11. Mick Foley, Steve Austin, The Rock, Ric Flair, Shawn Micheals, they're all proof of this.
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| Lordsofpain.net suggests that Playboy's new editor refuses to allow the magazine to be associated with Pro Wrestling.
Traci Brooks' edition is now a tribute to Farrah Fawcett and Brooks will appear on the e-mailing list edition.
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| Quote ="Roofaldo"It wasn't Russo's philosophy. I've heard Micheal Hayes say it an awful lot of times that the best gimmicks are the guys themselves with part of their personality turned up to 11. Mick Foley, Steve Austin, The Rock, Ric Flair, Shawn Micheals, they're all proof of this.'" After having read both of these guys auto bio's that becomes very obvious and as you say it works.
It also means they dont have to go far to get new source material as any thing they can think they can say
An example of scripting not working was the other year when Hulk Hogan was on the mic v's Vinny Mac and the Hulk got a line wrong.
It fell apart becuase The Hulkster[size=50tm[/size had nowhere to go for help as it wasn't him writing/thinking it.
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| Quote ="Roverswall"
An example of scripting not working was the other year when Hulk Hogan was on the mic v's Vinny Mac and the Hulk got a line wrong.
It fell apart becuase The Hulkster[size=50tm[/size had nowhere to go for help as it wasn't him writing/thinking it.'"
I remember that, it was truly embarassing.
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