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| Quote ="100% Wire"City just haven't really taken to the Champions League have they?'"
When they'd reached their 4th match without a win there was a lot of talk of Citeh fans boycotting the CL because it was so bent. They'll have STFU with them winning their last two games.
And with today's draw they'll be quickly back to talk of boycotting it again.
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| Quote ="100% Wire"That's the scousers put back in their place.'"
United's current winning streak should be a great encouragement for everybody else in the league - If a side as poor as United can string 6 wins together, then anybody can.
If Liverpool had any sort of striker, they would have battered United - I don't know about Van Gaal being a top coach, but he definitely has his fair share of good fortune. I can't recall any side which has made it to third in the league, while consistently being second best in most of the games they play, as much as United have this season.
I have to say DeGea is turning into a truly top class keeper though - He will certainly fetch United some decent cash when Madrid sign him in the summer.
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| Sky football coverage is getting to be unwatchable at the moment. Why have so many former Liverpool players all the time? Redknapp was an embarassment in the City/Everton game and just as bad tonight. The draw was a farce as well, Redknapp being as careful as he could be with the cube and getting an obvious look of distain from Souness when he pulled Chelsea out of the bag. Poor Jamie looked like he wanted to put it back in. They need to get rid of the LFC bias in the media. Hansen was okay, Redknapp presents well but when it comes to analysis he's one eyed and as bad as Phil Clarke. What on earth does Jamie Carragher add to Sky coverage bar a horrific accent? He's thick, speaks poorly and offers nothing. Even his obvious hatred of Gary Neville is becoming boring now.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Sky football coverage is getting to be unwatchable at the moment. Why have so many former Liverpool players all the time? Redknapp was an embarassment in the City/Everton game and just as bad tonight. The draw was a farce as well, Redknapp being as careful as he could be with the cube and getting an obvious look of distain from Souness when he pulled Chelsea out of the bag. Poor Jamie looked like he wanted to put it back in. They need to get rid of the LFC bias in the media. Hansen was okay, Redknapp presents well but when it comes to analysis he's one eyed and as bad as Phil Clarke. What on earth does Jamie Carragher add to Sky coverage bar a horrific accent? He's thick, speaks poorly and offers nothing. Even his obvious hatred of Gary Neville is becoming boring now.'"
I just saw that clip of the draw, absolutely hilarious. It's alright though, regarding the coverage, they'll have Thierry Henry next season to mix it up, leaving us just one short of a ''Big 4'' full-house... With the amount of disdain that they show for 'ordinary' clubs, Sky will pretty much be pushing for a break-away league in a few years, where the ''big 4' + Man City will play each other every week, and the rest can get f**ked.
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| Quote ="Dita's Slot Meter"United's current winning streak should be a great encouragement for everybody else in the league - If a side as poor as United can string 6 wins together, then anybody can.
If Liverpool had any sort of striker, they would have battered United - I don't know about Van Gaal being a top coach, but he definitely has his fair share of good fortune. I can't recall any side which has made it to third in the league, while consistently being second best in most of the games they play, as much as United have this season.
I have to say DeGea is turning into a truly top class keeper though - He will certainly fetch United some decent cash when Madrid sign him in the summer.'"
yeah, we're third through sheer luck. Refreshing to see we're not great anymore yet the bitterness and jealousy still pours from some.
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| Quote ="Mark"yeah, we're third through sheer luck. Refreshing to see we're not great anymore yet the bitterness and jealousy still pours from some.'"
'Bitterness and jealousy'??....
To be honest, I don't give two hoots for United - I am old enough to remember their long spell of mediocrity and even their hilarious relegation in the 70's, so when I hear folk spout about how great they are, or were, it always makes me giggle.
My post was simply pointing out that apart from Chelsea and Man City, who are a massive way clear of the rest in terms of footballing quality, the rest of the league is awash with very average teams and that ANY other side, with some consistent form and a healthy slice of luck, could put a run together that could drag them into Champions League contention.
Even the most ardent United fans must be scratching their heads and wondering how this present side somehow find themselves in third place?
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| Mark.
Welcome back to the football chat thread. Youve been MIA since Manchester United became rubbish, but now they have managed to hit the lofty heights of third, I notice you are back. Whilst you are here, what do you make of Falcao telling anyone that will listen how he would love to stay on £250k a week for life at manchester united?
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| Quote ="Lebron James"Mark.
Welcome back to the football chat thread. Youve been MIA since Manchester United became rubbish, but now they have managed to hit the lofty heights of third, I notice you are back. Whilst you are here, what do you make of Falcao telling anyone that will listen how he would love to stay on £250k a week for life at manchester united?
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Not just me then!
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| Stevie G off at the end of the season for Liverpool - does anyone really care with the age that he's at?
Had to carry the team again this year since the sale of Suarez, so who will pick that up next season? Genuine question - will Liverpool fade away even more so without him?
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| Given his transfer dealings i can't wait to see who Rodgers will try and sign to replace Gerrard.
Would he dare a bid on Barkley?!...or hope Henderson will step up?
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| Quote ="duke street 10"Given his transfer dealings i can't wait to see who Rodgers will try and sign to replace Gerrard.
Would he dare a bid on Barkley?!...or hope Henderson will step up?'"
As an Evertonian, if Liverpool were daft enough to offer the crazy figures quoted for Barkley in the media, (40 to 50 million), then I'd happily hand him over.
It will take a lot more than Barkley to replace Gerrard - Liverpool should have bit the bullet and paid the cash for Alexis Sanchez, as its only a player of his calibre who will be able to replace Gerrard's huge influence.
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| Quote ="Dita's Slot Meter"As an Evertonian, if Liverpool were daft enough to offer the crazy figures quoted for Barkley in the media, (40 to 50 million), then I'd happily hand him over.
It will take a lot more than Barkley to replace Gerrard - Liverpool should have bit the bullet and paid the cash for Alexis Sanchez, as its only a player of his calibre who will be able to replace Gerrard's huge influence.'"
Barkley for me is on a far higher level to Gerrard, in terms of talent he's vastly superior.
I think the main problem for Ross at the moment, apart from Everton's awful form, is the Premier League. You put Barkley into the a Barca/Real/Bayern side and he'd be unstoppable. In terms of natural ability there has been no one like Barkley in England since Gascoigne.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Barkley for me is on a far higher level to Gerrard, in terms of talent he's vastly superior.
I think the main problem for Ross at the moment, apart from Everton's awful form, is the Premier League. You put Barkley into the a Barca/Real/Bayern side and he'd be unstoppable. In terms of natural ability there has been no one like Barkley in England since Gascoigne.'"
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Barkley for me is on a far higher level to Gerrard, in terms of talent he's vastly superior.
I think the main problem for Ross at the moment, apart from Everton's awful form, is the Premier League. You put Barkley into the a Barca/Real/Bayern side and he'd be unstoppable. In terms of natural ability there has been no one like Barkley in England since Gascoigne.'"
Have to disagree - He's vastly overrated. He might have a decent amount of natural ability, but until he learns to look up and play a simple pass or a crucial defence splitting pass, instead of simply running with his head down, then he will simply become another of those English players who gets built up as a young player, but ends up being pretty average, like Jack Rodwell or Adam Johnson.
Personally, I have him on a par with Joe Cole - Hyped up, does the occasional thing which makes you gasp, but ultimately will drift on the outside of greatness.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Barkley for me is on a far higher level to Gerrard, in terms of talent he's vastly superior.
I think the main problem for Ross at the moment, apart from Everton's awful form, is the Premier League. You put Barkley into the a Barca/Real/Bayern side and he'd be unstoppable. In terms of natural ability there has been no one like Barkley in England since Gascoigne.'"
Possibly the most deluded, crazy post on any forum ever
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| Quote ="Mark"Liverpool are a joke, tried to tell you all in January. Rodgers is a pretender, helped by having the exceptionally talented racist and no other comps to worry about. Spent £100 million to strengthen and ballsed it up. The kings of cringe are back off their perch.
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No other comps to worry about? You mean like United this season
The only signing we've seemingly 'ballsed' up is Dejan Lovren.
Emre Can is going to be a top player for us as is Markovic. Both have huge potential and are currently showing that. Lallana has looked good when he has played. Unfortunate with injuries but we all know what he's capable off from his time at Southampton. He's a classy, silky player with a fantastic work rate.
Moreno I like, brilliant attacking full back. Could be better defensively but he's 20.
Balotelli has been managed dreadfully by Rodgers. Played on his own upfront when he's clearly better in a 2.
I'll judge that signing when Sturridge is back and Balotelli is along side him.
Can you name many teams that wouldn't struggle when you take their two best players (there two goal scorers) out of the team.
I'm quietly content so far given that we're 5 points off fourth, in the last 32 of the Europa League, FA Cup, semi finals of the Capital One Cup missing two players who notched up 50 goals between them last season.
Having one of the best strikers in the league come back into the team in two weeks will be like a new signing for us.
You have the same amount of points as last season with Moyes but you have actually strengthened and added two world class players, not in any cup competitions like you say, so what does that they about you? It's only cause the rest of the league has been e that you're in a better position and the fact that you have a superb goal keeper.
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| Quote ="Dita's Slot Meter"United's current winning streak should be a great encouragement for everybody else in the league - If a side as poor as United can string 6 wins together, then anybody can.
If Liverpool had any sort of striker, they would have battered United - I don't know about Van Gaal being a top coach, but he definitely has his fair share of good fortune. I can't recall any side which has made it to third in the league, while consistently being second best in most of the games they play, as much as United have this season.
I have to say DeGea is turning into a truly top class keeper though - He will certainly fetch United some decent cash when Madrid sign him in the summer.'"
Good post.
Been an incredibly lucky coach this year.
The difference is they have a quality keeper who willing save them in games. He must of won them 10 points. It'll be interesting to see how much he does go for in the summer?
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| £10-£12m tops for Barkley.
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| Quote ="McClennan"£10-£12m tops for Barkley.'"
Only if he only had 1 year left on his contract.
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| Quote ="McClennan"£10-£12m tops for Barkley.'"
If the world of football had any sense of reality, yes - but sadly it doesn't, so it will be double that at least I would think (especially when you consider Fellaini went for near £30 million!)
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| Quote ="WireFanatic III"Some strange FA Cups results today.'"
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| Quote ="100% Wire"Absolutely, Liverpool holding Bolton was very surprising
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We're the best form team in the league at present.
Sakho starting to prove his worth now after a consistent run of games. He's a monster.
A settled back 3.
Sturridge returning.
It's looking good for Liverpool IMO.
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| Quote ="Lord Tony Smith"We're the best form team in the league at present.
Sakho starting to prove his worth now after a consistent run of games. He's a monster.
A settled back 3.
Sturridge returning.
It's looking good for Liverpool IMO.'"
I'm not sure, Liverpool looked pretty awful today. Sakho is perhaps the worst player ever to play in the Premier League in terms of his ability on the ball. Why Liverpool's other players involve him in the tiki-taka is beyond me. When you are Liverpool's goalkeeper, do you a) Tap it 5 yards to Sakho, keeping in mind that there is a player 30 yards away who will probably take it off him before he's managed to control it, or b) Tap it five yards the other way to a reasonable player?
Everton were worse though, I've never seen a side with such little attacking threat, bar the current Villa side. It's very puzzling when you consider how dynamic and free scoring they were with the same team last season.
On the Barkley topic, are people on here serious? You don't think he's gifted? There aren't many in the Premier League who can do the things he does. I stand by my point, you put him in a league where they are a little less risk averse and he'd be sensational. He's a classy player, two great feet and has the potential to be a fantastic player. He might not even get close to living up to that potential of course, but the potential is there.
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