Also, Beyonce. Nice outfits, that's about it on that.

Joe Flacco proving traditional pockets passers aren't dead yet. All the talk of him now being elite and the amount of money he's after is mental though.

Hasn't he turned down 16 million a year and is looking for over 20

the only QB's that should be getting that kind of money are the calibre of P Manning,Brady and Rodgers and Flacco isn't in their class

Piss poor QB class. He's got leverage and is using it. Good luck to him.

Nail on head. There isn't a class like last year. How long do you think before people start calling Sam Bradford a bust pal?

Well I know who i'd be backing in a match between Baltimore and the Calanda Broncos.

cant remember many people picking baltimore pre season

oh in a min

I DID

www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-super-bow ... acle-Stain

www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-super-bow ... acle-Stain

yorkshire rams vs st louis rams haha.

Flacco had an Eli type run, still don't see them as a great team though, similar to ourselves last year,

Titus Young already released by the Rams. The Packers releasing Charles Woodson, I can see him at the Patriots.

Woodson is still an excellent player. He has lost a step but you can't take away his mind which is one of the best in the business.

He just isn't worth the $10million a year when we have some decent young safeties and corners and need to give new contracts out.

He'll land on a great team (Pats, Denver, Ravens) and play well for another couple of years.

I think you played the majority of last season without him anyway, is that correct? Do you have a natural suucessor on the roster or will you look to the draft.

I'm not sure how many he missed (think it was around the same as Jennings) but he was also limited for lots of the year.

We have Morgan Burnett at the other safety and M.D Jennings/Jerron McMillan at his spot who we seem to rate. Plus Casey Heywood looked extremely good in Woodsons former slot CB position. Whether they can replace him is another question. In terms of play, maybe (especially since he went to Safety), but I doubt we can replace his leadership and ability to read the game.

Wouldn't be surprised for us to take a cb/s in the 1st this year.

www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-combine/0 ... s_armstead Christ that's fast for a big lad.

www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-combine/0 ... s_armstead Christ that's fast for a big lad.

The Chiefs have got a starting QB and they didn't have to give up their 1st pick to get him as they traded 2013/14 2nd round picks to get Alex Smith from the 49ers.They will now hope they get the Alex Smith from the last 2 years and not the pre 2011 season one.

The Chiefs are idiots. Terrible deal for them. I'm willing to bet Smith will be Matt Cassell, the sequel

100%. Alex Smith is a bust who was made moderately respectable by being surrounded by an excellent team. He is nothing but a game manager at his absolute best. Exactly the same as Cassell - looked average in a great team and was built up largely because of their record. On a team where he is expected to do everything he will fold.

I think Jamal Charles will be very upset. I think it's a bit harsh to call him a bust. I acknowledge that he doesn't have the tools of a Rodgers, Brees, Brady type quarterback, but as you say he isn't a terrible game manager. I don't think you need an elite qb anymore to win a superbowl. There was a debate of Dave Dameshek's football podcast arguing this point. Flacco and Eli Manning are hardly top 5 qb's but you can get it done on the back of a decent d and a good run.

Alex Smith got better in SF when they drafted a lot of o-linemen with high draft picks and the Chiefs will be drafting the same with their 1st pick.The big thing for the Chiefs will also be can they get some good WR's to help Smith as the only half decent one they had in Bowe will probably be gone in free agency.

He is a bust. I think he is as good as he will get which when you consider his draft position and performances isn't great.

You can of course win without an absolutely elite QB however to do so you need to have virtually all the other pieces in place and a very good team around them. He had that in San Fran. He won't have that in KC. He isn't a good enough QB to paper over his teams cracks.

He is a step up from Cassell but that is it. They'll win more games but ultimately do nothing.

I think you're spot on with regards to his ceiling. I think the Chiefs have more talent than people think though, just need somebody to put it all together. I'd say he hasn't met expectations of a number 1 pick but to be classed as a bust you'd have to be in the same boat with Rick Mirer, Ryan Leaf, Akili Smith, David Carr, Jamarcus Russell, Jimmy Clausen, Brady Quinn, Matt Leinart, Vince Young, Mark Sanchez* etc. All these have been highly touted and have amounted to nothing, I think Smith has been better than all of these and is still a starting quarterback in the league after eight years. It get's magnified due to the best qb in the league coming out of the same draft.

*will give him a little plass due to 2 AFC championship games but he is awful now.

More QB news from the NFL as the Ravens have give Flacco what he wanted (6 year deal worth over 120 million).

www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/american-football/21606400

www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/american-football/21606400

shocking deal. Not even best in his division.