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| Quote ="Robbie Rotten"I felt their only weakness was a lack of height going forward, no 'plan B' if they resort to crossing the ball into the box like they did tonight. Ibra can bring that, but even then, he isn't that type of player. They'd have been better off keeping Eto'o or signing Villa, then signing another striker as back up to bring the aerial prowess, maybe Llorente or somebody of similar stature. Obviously, hindsight is a wonderful thing and I'm sure Barca were expecting Ibra to slot in, but it's clear their football has been trained to play a certain way, Ibra doesn't fit that style. He doesn't run channels (at least effectively), he isn't that quick over short distances, he lacks mobility/agility, he doesn't work hard enough, he doesn't use his physique to his advantage and he probably has 'too much' ability for what they needed. They didn't need somebody dropping deep, somebody pulling out wide, they needed a '9', a finisher, a lethal threat, basically Eto'o or Villa. I've said all this before, but you must question Pep or whoever decided Ibra to be their man.'"
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| Quote ="Paddy Evra"Aye. They have missed Iniesta hugely over the two legs IMO, he can offer them something different. Tonight they didn't seem to have a plan B, until they decided to shoot from anywhere. Saying that, Bojan should have scored from Messi's lovely little ball.'"
Defintely. Nobody in the bar could explain how he'd put it wide.
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| Quote ="Paddy Evra"That whole paragraph could be written about United.'"
You seem to be having a similar problem with Berbatov. He's very similar to Ibra only not as good. I think after RvN left, United changed the way they played. They dropped the traditional 4-4-2, instead they built around Ronaldo's ability to score out wide, whilst they never had a 'target man', their tactics relied upon players supporting and breaking into the box, Ronaldo was by the best at this, but Rooney also done it really well as they aren't/weren't pure strikers, they preferred dropping deep.
Since Ronaldo's gone, United are kinda stuck in transition, you no longer have the goals coming from out wide, instead they're mainly coming from the striker, which hasn't happened since Ruud was there. I feel if you want to return to the very top, you need a striker to partner/back up Rooney, I'm not sure if Villa would be the best candidate, I think Benzema would be class if available (despite his form in Spain), whilst it's been mooted Higuain would be available, again, he'd be class at any of the top sides in England IMO. I think you need a striker, a centre midfielder and your defence has been very threadbare with injuries this year. If you can sign a top passing midfielder to partner Fletcher/Hargreaves (I like Carrick but he isn't top top drawer, whilst Anderson was still struggling before his injury), then you'll be hard to stop.
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| TBH I thought he'd scored at the time. I think most people would've thought the same.
He should've scored, but even the best players in the world miss chances like that all the time. His header was 50 times better than Sneijder's last week. Sneiijder got lucky by his team mate following the dreadful header and the lino missing his blatant offside. Sneijder got very, very lucky. Bojan is just the unlucky bloke who many people will blame for Barca going out.
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| Quote ="Lord God Jose Mourinho"TBH I thought he'd scored at the time. I think most people would've thought the same.
He should've scored, but even the best players in the world miss chances like that all the time. His header was 50 times better than Sneijder's last week. Sneiijder got lucky by his team mate following the dreadful header and the lino missing his blatant offside. Sneijder got very, very lucky. Bojan is just the unlucky bloke who many people will blame for Barca going out.'"
I'd blame Guardiola over Bojan. Why start Milito at left back? Why bring Ibra off but leave Keita on the field and then proceed to work the ball into wider areas and cross it into under 6ft players?
Pep is a great manager but he shown a bit of inexperience in a really tough situation IMO. Ibra is struggling, no doubt, but he is still an undoubted threat, especially compared to Keita. I thought the starting formation was really strange, I couldn't understand why Milito was at left back, Pep realized after the break that it really wasn't working, but it was too late, Barca needed to score early if they were to have a chance, instead they tried to stroll their way into the game. They left too much to be done in the second half, the first half was really poor whilst it took them about half an hour to really go for it in the second.
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| Quote ="Robbie Rotten"I'd blame Guardiola over Bojan.'"
Quote ="Robbie Rotten"Why start Milito at left back?'"
As opposed to who?
Quote ="Robbie Rotten"Why bring Ibra off but leave Keita on the field and then proceed to work the ball into wider areas and cross it into under 6ft players?'"
He has done nothing since February. A better question would have been why did he start with Zlatan in the first place.
Quote ="Robbie Rotten"Pep is a great manager but he shown a bit of inexperience in a really tough situation IMO. Ibra is struggling, no doubt, but he is still an undoubted threat, especially compared to Keita. I thought the starting formation was really strange, I couldn't understand why Milito was at left back, Pep realized after the break that it really wasn't working, but it was too late, Barca needed to score early if they were to have a chance, instead they tried to stroll their way into the game. They left too much to be done in the second half, the first half was really poor whilst it took them about half an hour to really go for it in the second.'"
Barça went at Inter from the whistle. Inter's first shot on goal was in the secon half. Inexperience? He hasn't had two full seasons yet. Of course he's going to show a bit of experience.
Most folk here are happy, yes happy, because Barça played football. I guarantee tomorrow's papers are full of praise for Barça for attempting to play football rather than going out of the competition. And as for Mourinho, is he trying to compensate for something...
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| Quote ="Lord God Jose Mourinho"A deliberate hand ball is a bookable offence (a sending off offence if the opposition are in the act of scoring). Is every handball a booking?'"
The incident in question was not handball it was ball to hand. If a player is laying prone injured on the edge of the box and an opposing player accidentally trips over him is it freekick?? I would say not, the same as the ball accidentally striking the hand??.....
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| Well Done Inter, Barca are a great footballing side but their antics last night were disgusting.
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| Shocking behaviour from Arselona turning on the sprinklers last night
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| Barcelona got exactly what they deserved last night.
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| Is there a more overrated player that Ibrahimovic? 46million Euro's plus Eto'o I bet Inter coulden't wait to get him on a plane and sign the deal!
one of those players who looks world class against lower/mid table league plodders, but goes missing in big games for both club and country.
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| Shocking comments about Barcelona from some on here.
Don't you know that everyone connected with them always help old ladies cross the road, and every time they see a kid on the street who looks a bit thin they taken them in and make sure they have a good meal?
It's why last weeks arduos trip to Milan took them 5 hours longer than it takes anyone else to drive it.
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| I'm sensing sarcasm there.
No dig at them having Unicef on their shirt?
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| Quote ="Fresh Prince of Chesh-air"I'm sensing sarcasm there.
No dig at them having Unicef on their shirt?'"
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Fifth place finish would not mean failure - Mancini news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/footbal ... 652108.stm
In some ways I agree. I don't think 4th should have been a target in the first place this season. But when a side sack a manager when the team is in 6th place because they team aren't in line for their targets, when the club say that their goal is a top 4 finish, then not finishing 4th is a clear failure.
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In some ways I agree. I don't think 4th should have been a target in the first place this season. But when a side sack a manager when the team is in 6th place because they team aren't in line for their targets, when the club say that their goal is a top 4 finish, then not finishing 4th is a clear failure.
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| Quote ="Robbie Rotten"You seem to be having a similar problem with Berbatov. He's very similar to Ibra only not as good. I think after RvN left, United changed the way they played. They dropped the traditional 4-4-2, instead they built around Ronaldo's ability to score out wide, whilst they never had a 'target man', their tactics relied upon players supporting and breaking into the box, Ronaldo was by the best at this, but Rooney also done it really well as they aren't/weren't pure strikers, they preferred dropping deep.
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I think Fergie is looking to address the striker issue with us being linked with Mauro Boselli and the signing of Javier Hernadez with only Berbatov on his way.
I think Carrick is on his way in the summer his form has been poor all season if i could pick one player to replace him in midfeild it'd be Milner. I do think we need to bring in another midfielder and a left winger (Giggs can't carry on forever) as Nani seems to struggle on the left imo.
If we can keep hold of Vidic it'll be a massive boost with Evans playing more and more because of Rio's injurys, we've already brought Smalling in so i thing 4 halfs should be enough.
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| Quote ="mutt1"I think Fergie is looking to address the striker issue with us being linked with Mauro Boselli and the signing of Javier Hernadez with only Berbatov on his way.'"
Aye, we definitely need another striker.
Quote ="mutt1"I think Carrick is on his way in the summer his form has been poor all season if i could pick one player to replace him in midfeild it'd be Milner. I do think we need to bring in another Centre midfielder and a left winger (Giggs can't carry on forever) as Nani seems to struggle on the left imo.'"
Milner's been linked quite heavily with us, we'd need to sign him before the WC though, otherwise I can see his price rocketing afterwards.
There are also some rumours of Carrick + £15-20m for Modric. Can't see there been any truth in that. What's been quite clear this season is that Fergie doesn't trust Carrick as much as he used to, he's also been taken off penalty duties since his horror spot kick at Burnley earlier in the season.
I can't see us offloading Anderson this summer, I reckon Fergie will give him another year to try and prove himself. He's got talent, he just needs to show it on a regular basis. Hopefully, Hargreaves will be fit for the start of the season. Quote ="Fergie"It'll be like a new signing.[/url
Nani has had a good end to the season, we need him to continue that form into next year.
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If we keep Vidic I'm not sure how I'll cope with the excitement levels.
GK, AM and ST are our main priorities.
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| We really need to get one before half time, we're playing pretty well but we're not doing quite enough with the ball. Dirk missed a glorious chance.
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| Superb goal from Aquilani, absolutely can't wait to see him every week next year (insert next year joke here). He's immense.
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| Quote ="Robbie Rotten"Superb goal from Aquilani, absolutely can't wait to see him every week next year (insert next year joke here). He's immense.'"
I'm now referring to him as Bret Hart after how Pleat described his goal.
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| Quote ="Mass Effect"I'm now referring to him as Bret Hart after how Pleat described his goal.
Long way from becoming the best there is, the best there was, the best there ever will be though.
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Superb
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| Quote ="Robbie Rotten"Superb
Did anyone see Petric's goal against Fulham? Absolutely superb.'"
Not seen it yet, heard it was a screamer though!
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| I just know that the scousers are going to pi55 me right off by winning the game in the 94th minute.
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| Quote ="Lord God Jose Mourinho"I just know that the scousers are going to pi55 me right off by winning the game in the 94th minute.
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Not when there was only 2 minutes of extra time.
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| Outstanding achievement by Fulham. Roy Hodgson take a bow.
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