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| If I'm Dan Snyder I'm having a serious discussion with Shanahan about how he used RG3 yesterday. The guy is clearly injured and a) you continue to run option/run plays b) keep him in the game after he gets re-injured.
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| Quote ="ST_CONROY"If I'm Dan Snyder I'm having a serious discussion with Shanahan about how he used RG3 yesterday. The guy is clearly injured and a) you continue to run option/run plays b) keep him in the game after he gets re-injured.'"
Nail...on...head.
I think RG3's stubborness may well have cost his team the game, they have a more than capable back-up in Kirk Cousins.
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| Quote ="Megatron"Nail...on...head.
I think RG3's stubborness may well have cost his team the game, they have a more than capable back-up in Kirk Cousins.'"
I don't blame RG3 as much as Shanahan but I see your point. It's difficult because you know he'd get some abuse if he took himself out of the game.
Just completely baffling considering RG3 is more than capable of running a conventional offence too. It was clear after the INT in the 2nd quarter that it was also having an impact on his passing ability so I'd have pulled him then if not earlier.
The seeming difference between the views of the doctor and Shanny is also worrying - possible the league get involved?
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| Quote ="ST_CONROY"I don't blame RG3 as much as Shanahan but I see your point. It's difficult because you know he'd get some abuse if he took himself out of the game.
Just completely baffling considering RG3 is more than capable of running a conventional offence too. It was clear after the INT in the 2nd quarter that it was also having an impact on his passing ability so I'd have pulled him then if not earlier.
The seeming difference between the views of the doctor and Shanny is also worrying - possible the league get involved?'"
Yes, I could have understood them delaying a decision until half time but he shouldn't have played in the 2nd half.
Excellent performance by the Seahawks after the ist quarter.
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| I'll get my picks in early.
Hou @ NE - close early but Brady to pull away in the 2nd half. Pats by around 10.
Bal @ Den - I expect Denver to be able to keep them at arms length all game (10 or so clear) on the back of some good defence.
GB @ 49ers - We played terrible in the first game and lost by 8 I think. We finally have all our recievers back and our defensive guys too and now have something that resembles a run game. One concern is protecting Rodgers. Give Barclay and Newhouse help and Rodgers can beat the LB's & DB's. I think we can hold up ok against Kap. Packers by 7.
Sea @ Atl - Seattle by 10. Seattle D should have success against Ryan. I can't see Atlanta successfully stopping Lynch which sets up PA and Wilson to use his athleticism.
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| Delighted for the Seahawks ![Very Happy icon_biggrin.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_biggrin.gif) .
Losing Chris Clemons for next week (maybe more) is a bit of a blow. Think if they turn over the Falcons that will be as far as they go though (but would be very happy if i am wrong).
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| Quote ="ST_CONROY"I'll get my picks in early.
Hou @ NE - close early but Brady to pull away in the 2nd half. Pats by around 10.
Bal @ Den - I expect Denver to be able to keep them at arms length all game (10 or so clear) on the back of some good defence.
GB @ 49ers - We played terrible in the first game and lost by 8 I think. We finally have all our recievers back and our defensive guys too and now have something that resembles a run game. One concern is protecting Rodgers. Give Barclay and Newhouse help and Rodgers can beat the LB's & DB's. I think we can hold up ok against Kap. Packers by 7.
Sea @ Atl - Seattle by 10. Seattle D should have success against Ryan. I can't see Atlanta successfully stopping Lynch which sets up PA and Wilson to use his athleticism.'"
Agree with all but the final one. Fancy the Falcons to finally put together a decent playoff performance, so my picks are:
Patriots
Broncos
Packers
Falcons
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| I wouldn't be surprised to see Seattle given a heavy dose of Michael Turner next week, given how poorly they coped with Morris early on in particular yesterday.
Which - if successful - then sets up the play action for the likes of White and Jones to get some single coverage down the field.
Defensively, we have been poor against the run at times so the threat of Lynch does worry me. Seattle's receivers however, don't. Would be quite happy to see us play 8 in the box and make Wilson try to throw the ball, let Abraham and Biermann push him up into the pocket where his lack of size will hurt him.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"I wouldn't be surprised to see Seattle given a heavy dose of Michael Turner next week, given how poorly they coped with Morris early on in particular yesterday.
Which - if successful - then sets up the play action for the likes of White and Jones to get some single coverage down the field.
Defensively, we have been poor against the run at times so the threat of Lynch does worry me. Seattle's receivers however, don't. Would be quite happy to see us play 8 in the box and make Wilson try to throw the ball, let Abraham and Biermann push him up into the pocket where his lack of size will hurt him.'"
Sidney Rice and Golden Tate ( great name ) are the only WRs I can think of for the Seahawks. It'll be Lynch that gets most work but then watch out for Russell Wilson on the run. It'd be nice to see Atlanta do something in the playoffs.
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| I'm going for 4 home wins next week.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Would be quite happy to see us play 8 in the box and make Wilson try to throw the ball, let Abraham and Biermann push him up into the pocket where his lack of size will hurt him.'"
I wouldn't underestimate Wilson. His mobility is excellent and he definitely has the power in his arm to deliver. Against the 49ers he was exceptional and we couldn't lay a finger on him all night.
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| Oh dear Mr Shanahan. Oh dear. If reports are true he's lost his franchise QB for next season.
Last night showed why I don't like the option in the Pros. You want to put your QB out there as a runner. Be my guest, the guys going to get hit hard and will accumulate injuries.
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| Seattle lodge a complaint about the state of Washingtons pitch. Don't blame em. Has claimed AP and Chris Clemons ACLs in the last 2 seasons. Awaiting confirmation that RG3 has done his ACL and PCL. (10-14 month recovery period)
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| Quote ="Ndamukong"Oh dear Mr Shanahan. Oh dear. If reports are true he's lost his franchise QB for next season.
Last night showed why I don't like the option in the Pros. You want to put your QB out there as a runner. Be my guest, the guys going to get hit hard and will accumulate injuries.'"
I think RG3 himself should take a bit of the flack, when he was out against Cleveland he was saying he was good to go and seem a bit bitter over Cousins' success. Not been the same since that freak collision with Ngata. Alot of people harp on about his great character but comes across as a tad arrogant to me. I would love to see Suh dump him to the ground.
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| Quote ="Megatron"I think RG3 himself should take a bit of the flack, when he was out against Cleveland he was saying he was good to go and seem a bit bitter over Cousins' success. Not been the same since that freak collision with Ngata. Alot of people harp on about his great character but comes across as a tad arrogant to me. I would love to see Suh dump him to the ground.'"
Completely disagree. A pro sportsman is always going to want to stay in the game. He's been viewed as the saviour of the franchise, he's hardly going to take himself out of a playoff game.
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| RG3 injured. Shame for the player but good for the Giants.
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| shaping up well now the play-offs. I think 2 games are 1 sided. NE and Denver should both win well at home. This will be followed up by a great attacking game by the Packs to beat 49ers. The game to watch is again Seattle in a trip to Atlanta. Can Atlanta finally do something in the play off or will Russ Wilson carry on punching above his weight in the NFL. Him and Lynch have now got a great rush game between them. Both running up big numbers with the passing game going ok.
I can see Seattle pinching a win in this one. I just think their D has much more to offer so i thinks its gunna be close bit a couple of turnovers in favour of seattle to be the difference.
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| Sorry to hear about Griffin but that is the danger when using a gameplan which has several plays designed for the QB to take the ball in a situation that increases the likelihood of him being tackled in possession. Kind of the point I was making before. If you're paying a guy $5m or so a year for ten years, you should be protecting that investment. Scramble and have the odd play but I think in the NFL you need to base your running game around the RB/FB. It's too dangerous.
I know RGIII's is more down to him already being injured but that injury came about on a crazy scramble on a lousy pitch (he twisted his knee as the grass went from under him a bit didn't he) because he's a competitor. Jim McMahon was one of the crazier ones and I've seen him go head first more than a couple of times, but not much more. Even he wasn't that crazy to test his block of wood against a Ronnie Lott.
As for this weekend. Not sure. Justin Smith is supposed to back for us. If he is fit enough to be effective that makes it a harder game to win. That said, I think we're 1-4 against the Packers in the play offs and they have beaten us at our place as well. Including playoff games we're 2-14 against them over the past sixteen years. Could be another belter.
The Catch 2 - Terrell Owens on YT to relive that epic wild card game.
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| RGIII is having surgery right this minute on his Lateral collateral ligament and his ACL is to be evaluated and if further surgery is needed then it will be done. He apparently injured his knee the play before he went down and was carried off.
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| Prognosis on RGIII is 6- 8 months so hopefully he will be back by the start of next season. Anyway, I think the Redskins can take the East with Kirk Cousins.
This is not down to the option. Wilson sure ran a lot last Sunday, as will Kapernick. RGII injuries this year have come in the pocket or on plays which were not designed runs. His designed runs have all been spectacularly successful and injury free. He re-injured his hurt knee Sunday on his second TD pass, a conventional throw from the pocket. The original injury (the Ngata hit) was simply a freak occurrence as RGIII was diving to avoid contact. People are over reacting massively. Tom Brady once missed an entire season due to an injury sustained in the pocket. Peyton's neck injuries were sustained in the pocket. Should QBs not throw from the pocket as well?
Anyway, got three out of four on my picks last weekend and this weekend I'll go for
Denver, New England, Atlanta and Green Bay to win.
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| So, whos getting there ticket at 10am today? were going lower endzone. went lower sideline last time and we wanna try it from all views so we know where to get ou franchise season ticket if and when London franchise happens. going upper sideline for October Jacksonville game.
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| Quote ="G1"Prognosis on RGIII is 6- 8 months so hopefully he will be back by the start of next season. Anyway, I think the Redskins can take the East with Kirk Cousins.
This is not down to the option. Wilson sure ran a lot last Sunday, as will Kapernick. RGII injuries this year have come in the pocket or on plays which were not designed runs. His designed runs have all been spectacularly successful and injury free. He re-injured his hurt knee Sunday on his second TD pass, a conventional throw from the pocket. The original injury (the Ngata hit) was simply a freak occurrence as RGIII was diving to avoid contact. People are over reacting massively. Tom Brady once missed an entire season due to an injury sustained in the pocket. Peyton's neck injuries were sustained in the pocket. Should QBs not throw from the pocket as well?
Anyway, got three out of four on my picks last weekend and this weekend I'll go for
Denver, New England, Atlanta and Green Bay to win.'"
I didn't realise until watching Pardon The Interruption on ESPN America that RGIII had done his knee in before. Hopefully he'll be back and as fit as Adrian Peterson was this season. I think some are panicking because of his old knee injury and because of the impach he's made in the NFL so quickly and bringing the Redskins back.
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| Quote ="cas all the way"So, whos getting there ticket at 10am today? were going lower endzone. went lower sideline last time and we wanna try it from all views so we know where to get ou franchise season ticket if and when London franchise happens. going upper sideline for October Jacksonville game.'"
Got the deal for Club Wembley seats for both games when they came out. Thought it was a cracking price.
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| Upper sideline for the Vikings game for me ![Smile icon_smile.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_smile.gif)
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| Quote ="G1"Prognosis on RGIII is 6- 8 months so hopefully he will be back by the start of next season. Anyway, I think the Redskins can take the East with Kirk Cousins.
This is not down to the option. Wilson sure ran a lot last Sunday, as will Kapernick. RGII injuries this year have come in the pocket or on plays which were not designed runs. His designed runs have all been spectacularly successful and injury free. He re-injured his hurt knee Sunday on his second TD pass, a conventional throw from the pocket. The original injury (the Ngata hit) was simply a freak occurrence as RGIII was diving to avoid contact. People are over reacting massively. Tom Brady once missed an entire season due to an injury sustained in the pocket. Peyton's neck injuries were sustained in the pocket. Should QBs not throw from the pocket as well?
Anyway, got three out of four on my picks last weekend and this weekend I'll go for
Denver, New England, Atlanta and Green Bay to win.'"
If we have a fully healthy Nicks we will win it regardless of who is at QB. Nicks is the biggest part of our passing game.
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