Where has the Packers fan gone who posts on here? Is he ripping the arms off his Rodgers teddy?

There is a lack of postings by ST CONROY today

Hester is back as a KR ,just when you thought it was safe to kick to him look what happens.Peppers outplayed Matthews and Cutler did enough to win the game after a shaky start.At the start of the season I would have been happy with an 8-8 season but with the defence we've got and an improving offence a trip to Dallas in feb can't be ruled out.

Unfortunately some of us have University and can't post all of the time.

Disappointing first loss of the season but i generally always expect to split the division series.

Aside from that i'm still confident we are the best team in the division by some distance (and one of the best in the conference). We shot ourselves in the foot numerous times with penalties which wipped out TD's and INT's and were pretty average yet we still only lost by a game-ending FG.

Talking about getting carried away etc. I was reading an NFC West forum this morning and you should hear the Seahawks fans! A very lucky win against the Chargers and they think they are going to Dallas!

I'm not getting carried away am i?

The Seahawks have a very serious chance of winning the division considering the 49ers can't decide between utterly awful and decent, the Cardinals will do nothing with Anderson at QB and for the next few years the Rams are irrelevant.

Last nights game confirmed more than ever we need to upgrade the backfield. B-Jax is a good back-up. Kuhn is a great FB but marginal in the run game. A-Rod can rush but is no Vick at that aspect. We have nobody dominant and no doubt leads to the number of penalties we conceed as we always have to pass. We really need to trade for an RB. Marshawn Lynch or pick up somebody like Willie Parker.

Reeeeeeeaaallllllly hope we beat them. Forget the 49ers, Seattle are a team I cannot stand. If we win one only one more game all season, this would be the one I'd choose. Our record against divisional opponents in the last few years is diabolical considering how bad the other teams around us have been. I think we're 1-18 in divisonal matchups dating back to 2007



It's a shame that Jackson is looking like he might miss the next week or two. Wanted so see S-Jax run through Aaron Curry - they've got a little ongoing fued from last season after Jackson said that Curry was a cheap shot merchant.

Apologies, I quoted the wrong person

The Seahawks were very lucky against the Chargers, we beat ourselves, much like we did against KC.

1st half was a joke. 2nd half our offense was immense, special teams was a joke - like is was against KC. The Seahawks offered little on offense, and when rivers got going, simply couldn't handle him - the picks were a mix of poor WR play, and a forced pass in the final play.

If they win the division it's by default. Really disappointed with San Francisco.

As far as the Bolts go, we're not too far away. D has been immense, the offense could score at any point, it's just putting it together. Special teams has been the let down this year. we miss the Special Team bBast that is Kassim Osgood.

University? Thought you were at Edge Hill?

Shock horror that you don't give any credit whatsoever to the team that's just beaten you. The Packers are one of the best teams in the NFC but to suggest that the Packers are 'the best team in the division by some distance' shows your usual lack of grace and class.

Yes, Edge Hill University but i see what your trying to do there.



I haven't shown a lack of grace, class or given no credit simply because i haven't discussed the Bears, i was looking at my own team.

The Bears are doing well at 3-0. Cutler is far improved from last year and the defence has some steel back. Even when they've looked average the Bears have done well to come out with the wins.

I do think we are the best team in the division. The Vikes are lost without a number 1 reciever, the Lions are competative but still irrelevant in terms of winning the division and the Bears are doing well. However if you look at the wins: Detroit. Calvin Johnson definately scored that TD its just a weird rule. Dallas. Nothing to say it was an excellent win. Us, we shot ourselves in the foot numerous times (losing INT's etc) take away even one of those penalties and we win. We beat ourselves.

Credit to the Bears for being there to win the games but i still feel we are the better team in the division and overall.

What about the Packers then? You beat a Vickless 1st half eagles in first game and a terrible team in the bills second and then got beat by the bears? How does that put you as the best team in the division by some distance?

We destroyed the Eagles (i think it was 24-3 or similar) until Vick came in. We had not gameplanned for Vick and had very few QB Spy sets therefore whenever Clay got near him he broke free and rushed. Despite that it was a convincing win. The Bills we battered, sure they are poor but we hammered them. The Bears game was disappointing but still it was our own fault. Without numerous penalties we would have had far more points or taken away Bears points (eg the FG on the last drive). Credit to the Bears for taking advantage of our mistakes but even after a poor performance we only lost by a game ending FG. I'm very confident we'll come out on top.

So if they had Vick for the entire game them "may" have beaten you. You can't us if's and but's cause it suits you for the bears but then refute the same argument against the Packers. Got to be fair. They'll be 3-1 sunday anyway after their visit to Giants stadium.

Of coure they "may" have but we knocked out their starting QB. If we had Grant for the whole game we "may" have won by more. My point was Vick is a completely different style of QB to Kolb and requires dealing with another way. We had no idea he would be playing (presumably if as you said he played the entire game we'd have known) and therefore had no gameplan to stop him and he led a mini resurgence as a result.

No ifs and buts for the Bears. They beat us fair and squre however it was entirely of our own making and we were still in a position to win until the death. You can look at it two ways. Its terrible that we blew a game we could have won especially against a division rival but at the same time it is a positive that we were able to remain in the game despite no running game and terrible penalties.

I actually think they will be 4-0, after the beat the Giants.

See, that wasn't so difficult, was it? I agree with you - I think the Packers are the better team, however to suggest that they are somehow miles away is stretching it to say the least.

As for the Detroit game, well it wasn't a TD. The call was absoultely correct. However, the rule is stupid and it should be changed.

Do you think McCarthy should have let the bears score around the minute mark giving Rodgers time for the tie? That's whats was being questioned on PTI last night.

Personally yes i'd have let them. I'd have faith that Rodgers could lead us downfield for the tie or a decent shot of getting it.

I think you were probably supposed to quote me

I still think the Packers are a better overall team than the Bears but we've now played 2 out of the 3 pre season favourites in the NFC and beat them both.That is the reason i'm a bit more upbeat about the Bears prospects this season than I was at the start of the month.

You're a fan, you're supposed to get giddy, that's what fans do! I have been convinced the Chargers were going to win the Superbowl for the last 3 years!!

I think if you had a better HC you might have won it in one of those years.

Trent Edwards is a Jaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaag.

He's unbeaten in December! They always get my hopes up, and they will again this year before going out in the 2nd round of the playoffs to an AFC East team.

I agree though. Norv was the wrong appointment, but he has won the division every year, and won more post season games than any other Chargers HC. For all his faults, he's done ok. I just fear that our chance of the big one has passed because he only did ok!

Thats another poop QB on the Jaguars roster then

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Keeping two kickers apparently.