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| Quote ="Ande"I admit being one of the best teams in Europe is great and Benitez's record is outstanding yes but i'd much rather be one of the main forces within the Premiership.'"
You're joint second, having done the double over United and Chelsea. I'd say this year you are a force within the PL.
Quote ="Ande"Something that Mancini did for his league teams was win the title, 3 years in a row. That shows quality within the league. he may not be the best man for the job but you could look for Bernd Schuster, Rijkaard, Slavan Billic etc.'"
That shows he was good in the Italian league, which is nowhere near as good as the PL.
Quote ="Ande"Yes Rafa did make the signing of Torres and Benayoun and Skrtel etc but he now has to realise that he must play his BEST team week in and week out throughout the Premiership season, this is the thing that narks me and alot of other Liverpool fans off.
Rotation does not work look at United and Chelsea over the past 5 years for playing the best team week in and week out. '"
Liverpool have (apart from injuries) probably had the most consistent side selection of the top 3 this season, we've rotated in just about every game, through injury and through choice. Rotation works, it's just how you rotate your players, something Benitez got wrong in his first few years, but has since cut out.
Quote ="Ande"As long as he continues to tinker and change and make quite frankly appauling signings then i will have reservations about him as Liverpool manager.'"
That's something I don't understand, he's brought two CL finals, with one victory, IIRC an FA Cup and maybe a Carling Cup, and he has got you closer to the PL title than other managers have managed. |
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| Quote ="Eurob0y"Josemi Rey
Antonio Nunez
Luis Garcia
Xabi Alonso
Mauricio Pellegrino
Fernando Morientes
Scott Carson
Antonio Barragan
Boudewijn Zenden
Jose Reina
Mohamed Sissoko
Peter Crouch
Godwin Antwi
Miki Roque
Jack Hobbs
Besian Idrizaj
Mark Gonzalez
Paul Anderson
Jan Kromkamp
Daniel Agger
David Martin
Robbie Fowler
Craig Bellamy
Gabriel Paletta
Fábio Aurélio
Jermaine Pennant
Dirk Kuyt
Nabil El Zhar
Jordy Brouwer
Francisco Durán
Ronald Huth
Álvaro Arbeloa
Lucas Leiva
Mikel San José Domínguez
Sebastian Leto
Fernando Torres
Andriy Voronin
Yossi Benayoun
Ryan Babel
Charles Itandje
Emiliano Insúa
Martin Skrtel
Javier Mascherano
Philipp Degen
Andrea Dossena
Diego Cavalieri
David Ngog
Robbie Keane
Albert Riera
So are you saying Benitez didnt want ANY of these players? Because thats a hell of a lot of players Liverpool have signed and still havent been anywhere near winning a premiership title.'"
How many of those were bought as youth players and not expected to be in the first team within 2 to 3 years though. Of course he's made signings that haven't worked out, which manager hasn't?
Some players don't translate well to the PL (this was the case with Josemi), some have potential that doesn't materialise (Gonzalez), sometimes (as was the case with a fair few of the earlier years of his tenure as manager) we just needed bodies to fill the squad to a decent level.
It amazes me that some think that because he doesn't have a 100% success rate in signings it should be used as a stick to beat him with. I wonder if these people have either forgotten the likes of Djemba Djemba, Veron, Forlan and Davis Bellion or just ignore them. |
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| Quote ="Ande"I admit being one of the best teams in Europe is great and Benitez's record is outstanding yes but i'd much rather be one of the main forces within the Premiership.
Something that Mancini did for his league teams was win the title, 3 years in a row. That shows quality within the league. he may not be the best man for the job but you could look for Bernd Schuster, Rijkaard, Slavan Billic etc.
Yes Rafa did make the signing of Torres and Benayoun and Skrtel etc but he now has to realise that he must play his BEST team week in and week out throughout the Premiership season, this is the thing that narks me and alot of other Liverpool fans off.
Rotation does not work look at United and Chelsea over the past 5 years for playing the best team week in and week out.
As long as he continues to tinker and change and make quite frankly appauling signings then i will have reservations about him as Liverpool manager.'"
Have you actually watched these teams play over this time or are you just relaying dodgy media hype? I'll pretty much guarantee that they never go more than 2-3 games without having some changes in the team.
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| Quote ="Mark"Fair enough keith I apologise....I was totally wrong, two people didn't make you look a dick.'"
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| Quote ="RB"Lol @ City.....'"
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"They won????????'"
On penalties, after extra time, after conceding 2 equalising goals in the last 6 minutes of normal time. 
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| Quote ="keithcun"Unlike Lord God Jose Mourinho, I can't see into the future, so I don't know if we will win the League.
The win at OT made it possible, but still unlikely. We are still 4 points behind, potentially 7, and with 9 games to go that still makes it a very hard task. What I will say is, after the win at OT, we are still in with a chance coming to the end of March, and it may put Man U under a bit more pressure, which is what any level headed Liverpool fan (Ande, take note) was saying is what they wanted at the start of the season. Any chance of winning the league has tended to cease well before now in previous seasons, so we are progressing, no matter what anyone says. The fact that we have been consistently good in Europe also shows we are on the right path.
Problem is, there are some, because of our history, and these tend to be of the younger generation, Championship Manager generation, note I said some, think we have a god given right to win the League, and would change the manager year in year out until we do, or suggest someone like Martin O'Neil, who couldn't hold a candle to the likes of Rafa. Of all these people who have criticised Rafa's new contract, I've yet to see one offer an alternative that would be better.
They just don't realise the scale of the job Rafa faced when he got here and whilst he's been here. They don't even understand why he's had to buy the players he has in the previous 4 years, but as I said, they are pretty clueless to be honest. They can't see what's in front of their eyes. I mean the bloke hasn't had much say what goes on at the Academy FFS, how can that be?
I don't think Rafa signing the contract will have any bearing on how we play just like I don't think it had any bearing on how we played whilst he was negotiating.
Well, if we don't win it, then obviously not.
At the moment we have shown on any given day we can beat anyone. We seem to have done a complete turn around from previous seasons where we have struggled against the top 3 and beat the "easy pickings" in the main. This year, for some reason we have struggled to beat the lesser sides, especially at Anfield, yet up to now, just dropped 2 points away at Arsenal against the top 3, beatin both Man U and Chelsea home and away.
We are at the stage now where we don't need to bring quantity in to the club to refresh the squad, the problem we have had for the first 3 seasons under Rafa, now we can concentrate on hopefully bringing in 1 or 2 top class players in to enhance the squad in the areas that's needed. Rafa thought that Keane could be a good addition to the squad, but it didn't work out that way, so he's gone, and I'm sure he'll try to bring in another top striker to replace him.
But there again, with the sale of the club up in the air, will the G&H splash the cash or will they sell. I think it's July they have to payback the finance, which is bang in the middle of when Rafa would hope to be signing players, so that could bring it's own problems.'"
Yes or no would have done
Liverpool have improved this season no doubt about it and what they need now in the close season is 1 or maybe 2 quality signings. Adding numbers to the squad would be the wrong thing and something Liverpool have been guilty of in the past. Bring in genuine quality and if he needs some more numbers then promote some young kids.
Liverpool have certainly put the pressure back on Utd and tbh I never thought it was over as there are always twists and turns in every title race but Utd have it to lose right now. |
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Yes or no would have done
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| It is fair enough when you have a rotation policy that takes quality out and brings quality in!
For example, Mr Ferguson leaves out Wayne Rooney, Michael Carrick and Rio Ferdinand and brings in Dimitar Berbatov, Ryan Giggs and Jonny Evans.
Rafa leaves out Fernando Torres, Xavi Alonso and Daniel Agger and brings in David Ngog, Leiva Lucas and Sami Hyypia.
Rafa does not have the replacements to rotate key players like Torres and Gerrard, whereas Mr Ferguson does. That's why they're top of the league |
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| Quote ="airliebird9"It is fair enough when you have a rotation policy that takes quality out and brings quality in!
For example, Mr Ferguson leaves out Wayne Rooney, Michael Carrick and Rio Ferdinand and brings in Dimitar Berbatov, Ryan Giggs and Jonny Evans.
Rafa leaves out Fernando Torres, Xavi Alonso and Daniel Agger and brings in David Ngog, Leiva Lucas and Sami Hyypia.
Rafa does not have the replacements to rotate key players like Torres and Gerrard, whereas Mr Ferguson does. That's why they're top of the league
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| Quote ="keithcun"Didn't stop them battering Man U at Old Trafford though.
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[url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/merseyside/7954599.stmGerrard[/url
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Fantastic.
I was right all along.
Manchester get easy draw.
Do it Porto
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| Quote ="Special One"Fantastic.
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| Quote ="flipper"no you were wrong remember, you said you were winning the last round.'"
Shut up flipper
After I lose to Mr Alex I say on here that Manchester would get easy draw. |
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| Quote ="Special One"Shut up flipper
After I lose to Mr Alex I say on here that Manchester would get easy draw.'"
shut uppa yourself
before you lose to Mr Alex, you say you beat Mr Alex and do silly run down touchline |
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| Quote ="flipper"semi
Manchester United/FC Porto v Villarreal/Arsenal
Barcelona/Bayern Munich v Liverpool/Chelsea'"
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| Quote ="Billy Banter"Semi? I think Utd may have a full, after that draw.
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