"Sorry rick your out"



Hahahaha

PARRY PARRY PARRY OUT OUT OUT!!

Is right!

OK then.

More entertaining? Nope.
Technically superior? Highly debatable.

VFM? You tell me. What's the going rate for tickets in Spain and Italy. If it is great VFM, where are the fans?

I know for a fact in Italy the top clubs only sell out for the big matches in the league and big matches in Europe. Some of the Italian attendances are embarrassing in Europe and in the league for so called big clubs. The fans, I can only presume are not finding VFM or they would be packed week in week out. There averages are no where near the capacity. Am I right in thinking Juve can't manage an average of more than 25,000. Yes I know there's problems with the fans and the stadium, but even taking that into consideration, that's pretty pi$$ poor effort.

I bet that was one of Real Madrids highest attendance for years the other night, only because Liverpool were in town and if you think the prices over here are steep, how come the Liverpool fans were paying either £58 or £88 to watch the game. None of the Spanish clubs seem to sell out week in week out either, so it's not as if they are banging down the doors for these VFM matches, is it.

Again, in Spain, the averages are nowhere near the capacity.

Coco the clown on his way out, paving the way for the fact machine to carry on. So that's another few years without the Premiership.

Superb news

Not really. Hicks has been after giving Parry the flick for a while. Was it November where he slated Parry for Liverpool being left behind in the income stakes?

he blamed parry for us not winning the premire league

will that mean rafa will take charge of everything

Parry out? Yanks out?

Maybe Rafa should be chairman/chief exec/coach all at the same time?icon_wink.gif

that would be interesting

Madrid averaged over 76000 in the league last season. The averages in la liga compare favorably with the english league. How many english clubs sell out on a regular basis? The big 4 plus spurs/West ham and thats pretty much it.

You're not saying anything I haven't already covered. What I'm saying is, if it's more VFM in Spain and Italy, which is what Penguin insinuated, why aren't they putting sold out signs up every week. They are not.

Do you think £58 and £88 for a ticket the other night was VFM in comparison to what it will cost at any of the English grounds.

What about Italy, their attendances are pi$$ poor.

Spanish clubs ticket prices are very different to here, you can pick up a season ticket at Atlético, for example, for about €300 and they club have over 49,000 season ticket holders in a 52,000 capacity stadium.

However they very rarely have full houses - tickets for matchdays usually start at around €30 but start at double that when the opposition are Real or Barcelona, and often aren't quite as cheap as assumed - due to this many ST holders won't go to more than 10 games a season and they still get their moneys worth. As I posted on here a few weeks back I was going to go to Malaga v Atlético but the cheapest ticket was €100.

One of many reasons for the "lower" crowds in Spain, and probably many other European countries, is simply a cultural thing, actually going to the football week in, week out is a very English thing - most people I know in Spain eat out at restaurants 4 or 5 times a week with their families and/or friends and don't have the money to spend on football tickets, priorities are just different as is the lifestyle - you can also watch all La Liga games live on television.

I agree about Italy. Thats why I didn't bring them into it.



£58/£88 is prob 60/90 euros. Last year the same price tickets would've cos around £40/£70. Not Madrids fault the exchange rate is on it's @rse.

If Madrid played had the same capacity as Old Trafford they'd be putting the sold out signs up every week. The emirates would be too small for Barca. Athletico Madrid/Valencia would fill a ground the size of Anfield/Stamford Bridge. There's not that much difference really.

I'm amazed Parry has lasted this long at Liverpool, surely they should have been able to take much better advantage of the money and profile the Premier League has gathered over the last 10 years?

Which was a levelled against him by one of the yanks if I remember correctly not long after they arrived.

and my favourite

Your favs not working for me, but I bet it's the one with the New York baseball cap.

Do you think the bloke with teh cap is being ironic?



It is indeed. I heard that he started supporting FCUM but he got a bit bored and returned to Old Trafford shortly after they won the league

His first name isn't Karlos is it?

I refuse to confirm or indeed deny, if it is Karlos.

Am I right in saying that the last time an Italian scored past English opposition in knockout CL football was the final in 07?

There are some decent prospects in Italy, and I read t'other day they're changing the way their T.V packages are, and how they sell them, and so on. Which I think will strengthen the league. At the moment, though, the Italian sides are far too slow and lack any kind of intensity to beat the English.

Maybe but I think there is a real lack of quality in Italy at the moment. I find it amazing that the likes of Camorenesi and Muntari play for top Italian sides. They just doen't have the quality that the top English sides have.

Quite a few big teams went out of the UEFA cup last night. Valencia went out too. Zenit will now go on to win it IMO.

I'm a fan of Muntari, I think he adds real strength to the midfield, he had a poor game the other night, but I don't think he's that bad. Similarly with Sissoko, who's done exceptionally well at Juve. But I understand where you're coming from.

Camoranesi I've not really watched for a couple of years now, I used to rate him a lot in previous years, but I'm guessing like a lot of the stars in Italy, he's past his best and he's now on the slide.

There are some decent players in some of the smaller Italian sides, the likes of Fiorentina and Napoli have some very good players, a few of whom I'm surprised haven't made the bigger step up.

When they played at the Delle alpi the crowds dropped off massivly with only 250 fans turing up for one cup game around 4 years ago

250 in a 70k capacity stadium but still averaged 35k in the league which was still ok considering how poor the ground is. Since then they have moved back too there old ground which holds around 25000 and the Delle Alpi has been demolised and they are building a 40k seater football stadium minus running track.