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| They've not even [itried[/i to make it believable!
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| How can anyone complain when its been given to 2 countries who have never held the world cup before? And I would have thought that 7 years is plenty time to upgrade certain things in Russia if needed.
If it was all about money then England and the USA would have won the two bids.
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| Quote ="Ordsall Quays Red"How can anyone complain when its been given to 2 countries who have never held the world cup before? And I would have thought that 7 years is plenty time to upgrade certain things in Russia if needed.
If it was all about money then England and the USA would have won the two bids.'"
If it was all about money Russia and Qatar would've won it. Oh hang about.....
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| Fair play to Niall Quinn, he has told it how it is, on SSN.
Speaking about how our own press haven't exactly helped, as they have been very pessimistic with the coverage they have gioven our own bid, which is ridiculous.
He also stated that he cant get his head around FIFA's decisions sometimes.
All correct in my opinion.
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| Well its seems that Oil greed has now reached FIFA. Not suprised about these decisions one bit
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| I hope Scotland qualify for Qatar 2022.
The sight of 11 gingers chasing Brazilian shadows in 50 degree heat for 90 minutes would be the funniest thing I've ever seen.
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| Quote ="OoOGazOoO"Fair play to Niall Quinn, he has told it how it is, on SSN.
Speaking about how our own press haven't exactly helped, as they have been very pessimistic with the coverage they have gioven our own bid, which is ridiculous.
He also stated that he cant get his head around FIFA's decisions sometimes.
All correct in my opinion.'"
I thought Quinn spoke really well in that interview he called it spot on, for me. I think the media have been optimistic with our bid, very positive barring the obvious but either way I can't see that being an issue really. FIFA voters from around the world, based in Zurich would they be looking at our media's back pages? I can't believe the Russia bid was better than ours, having seen the presentations and speeches they never got near ours.
On 2022 - Qatar? what about the heat, 40-50 degree heats will be unbearable. They've said they'll put air conditioned stadiums in place but how can you possibly play football in those heats in the peak of summer. All medical and scientific advice is against their conditions alone.
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| Quote ="Stealth Comic"I hope Scotland qualify for Qatar 2022.
The sight of 11 gingers chasing Brazilian shadows in 50 degree heat for 90 minutes would be the funniest thing I've ever seen.'"
And then when Scotland win the tournament, nobody can even get a pint to celebrate!
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| What a surprise that the 2 bids that won are the 2 that the FIFA men can get the most backhanded payments from.There's no point in bidding for any future world cup because not only do the rest of the football world hate us,FIFA know they'll get no extra payments from us.It's now time for the might of the whole British media to get together and investigate and prove how corrupt FIFA is.
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| Quote ="DAR130"What a surprise that the 2 bids that won are the 2 that the FIFA men can get the most backhanded payments from.There's no point in bidding for any future world cup because not only do the rest of the football world hate us,FIFA know they'll get no extra payments from us.It's now time for the might of the whole British media to get together and investigate and prove how corrupt FIFA is.'"
Brilliant post mate, spot on. Apparently FIFA have said they'll release the details of how the voting went but I'd be very surprised if they did. I'd love to know how they all voted, if the rumours are true I'd like to see someone try and justify how our bid went first and Holland/Belguim survived the first round of bidding.
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| That's what you get for getting someone affiliated with Manchester City to speak at the presentation.
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| Corrupt organisation plumps for mafia state. That'd be my headline tomorrow morning.
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Brilliant post mate, spot on. Apparently FIFA have said they'll release the details of how the voting went but I'd be very surprised if they did. I'd love to know how they all voted, if the rumours are true I'd like to see someone try and justify how our bid went first and Holland/Belguim survived the first round of bidding.'"
Just been released that we got 2 whole votes - and one of those was our own rep.
Why anyone is surprised that the corrupt FIFA executive led by the England-hating Blatter came up with this result is beyond me. We never stood a chance.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Just been released that we got 2 whole votes - and one of those was our own rep.
Why anyone is surprised that the corrupt FIFA executive led by the England-hating Blatter came up with this result is beyond me. We never stood a chance.'"
It also seems to be the case that two people who voted for Belgium/Holland in the first round switched allegiance to Russia in the second round, which is pretty strange.
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| Quote ="Gareth1984"It also seems to be the case that two people who voted for Belgium/Holland in the first round switched allegiance to Russia in the second round, which is pretty strange.'"
That sounds like a tactical vote to get us knocked out.
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| Quote ="Gareth1984"It also seems to be the case that two people who voted for Belgium/Holland in the first round switched allegiance to Russia in the second round, which is pretty strange.'"
Same thing happened in the 2022 vote. Qatar and Japan both lost a vote each from the first round
Round 1: Australia 1, Japan 3, USA 3, South Korea 4, Qatar 11
Round 2: Japan 2, South Korea 5, USA 5, Qatar 10
Round 3: South Korea 5, USA 6, Qatar 11
Round 4: USA 8, Qatar 14
As for the 2018 vote
Round 1: England 2, Belgium/Netherlands 4, Spain/Portugal 7, Russia 9
Round 2: Belgium/Netherlands 2, Spain/Portugal 7, Russia 13
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| How did Australia get less votes than 3 others that have hosted 2 of the last 5 world cups
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| Really don't know how we have come last. We might not have had the best bid but we certainly didn't have the worst.
I'm interested to see how this Russian world cup goes as travelling must surely be a problem. The country is huge and unless there is a marked improvement on the travel side of things I can see some issues. I also hope they don't do a South Africa and have huge stadiums that don't get used in the middle of nowhere.
It's been noted by a lot of people that I know that the two oil rich countries have managed to pick up the two tournaments.
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| Quote ="DAR130"What a surprise that the 2 bids that won are the 2 that the FIFA men can get the most backhanded payments from.There's no point in bidding for any future world cup because not only do the rest of the football world hate us,FIFA know they'll get no extra payments from us.It's now time for the might of the whole British media to get together and investigate and prove how corrupt FIFA is.'"
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| Quote ="LFCRhino"Same on sky sports news, Prince William`s face looks like a slapped arris'"
It's called heredity.
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| £563m spent. The best technical bid. The best economic bid. The future king, the PM and football's biggest icon all presented what was described as the best presentation.
All we get is two votes!
Is it really worth trying again, it obviously does not matter what we do.
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| As if international football wasn't already deteriorating enough, Fifa go and embarrass the game by allowing the world cup to be hosted by two nothing countries.
BBC revealing the corruption was the first step, but the indefensible voting results go to show how corrupt it is. I hope the world cups in Russia and Qatar go on to be just as farcical as the world cup hosted in SA.
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| Quote ="DAR130"How did Australia get less votes than 3 others that have hosted 2 of the last 5 world cups
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Agreed. In fact that's giving the conspiracy talk more credence than us missing out IMO. Of the 5 up for it, Australia should have been a certainty. That they went out first with only a single measly vote is just a bad joke.
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