Fully agree though mate, although it was even worse back when all 4 McMahons were clogging up the shows.

Just leave steph on please

someone switch her off please?

Thought the ECW scarmble was a very good macth too. Take it were going to see Khali and Kane now

again.

ll be shocking with khali trying to chop hes way to victory and kane doing th massive 2 inch chokeslam

Batista 'hosted' Raw tonight

Apparantly 15 guys have moved show because of Trump 'trading' them

5 have moved to each show, Raw has got 3 ECW and 2 others unconfirmed.
Below are the guys who debuted on Raw (if you want to read)

=whiteEvan Bourne
Jack Swagger
Mark Henry (again...)

Next week's Raw is hosted by Ted Dibiase Sr.

EDIT: Full list of trades below

=whiteTraded to WWE Raw:

Gail Kim, Alicia Fox, Jack Swagger, Evan Bourne and Mark Henry.

Traded to WWE Smackdown:

Matt Hardy, Finlay, David Hart Smith, Tyson Kidd, and Natalya.

Traded to ECW:

Shelton Benjamin, Goldust, William Regal, and The Bella Twins

Last night's Raw had a number 1 contender's match for Night of Champions

HHH vs MVP

Cena vs Miz

Gee, I wonder who won through on that one?

spoilers


=whitemiz versus MVP next week,

no one's gonna believe that

ECW robbed in another draft

Every time it gets good they move all the top guys to other brands.

The show lost all it's best heels in one night. Swagger & Henry to RAW, Finlay & Hart Dynasty to Smackdown. I guess that means Kozlov will be called back up to TV

Evan Bourne has gone to Raw too with Shelton, Goldust and Regal going other way



Don't worry this isn't spoilers the draft wasn't on TV they just posted it on their website.

Also what was the point in drafting Matt Hardy from Smackdown to Raw if they were only going to move him back 6 weeks later?

Goldust ?

ECW must be 3rd show. Smackdown 2nd. Raw 1st. So when either of the other 2 start looking like getting above their station then steps are taken to knock it back down. Be that removing bookers from behind the scenes or robbing the talent from the ring.

There's a big problem with WWE and last night's Raw highlighted it. Young guys are not allowed to get over. Well let me rephrase that. Young guys are put in a position where they're not able to get over but are at a point where they'll take the blame for not getting over.

MVP, Bourne & Swagger even Miz were all, in one way or another, jobbed out clean last night. These are guys who should be looking at headlining PPV's in a few years (yes even Miz, it's my dirty little secret that I think he's a greatly improved guy. btw why don't they release his t-shirt for sale? It'd do Stone Cold numbers

Actually, that's proabably why. When it's just a few chants they can brush it off, but an arena full of shirts saying how bad cena is isn't going to be so easy to ignore)

The new crowd favourite on RAW, Sexual Chocolate.

You gotta be kidding?!

If so that's the first time the guy's being over in 13 years.



O/T Being watching the Hulk Hogan Ultimate Anthology DVD set lately, brings back a lot of awesome memories.

Would love to see one more match - had a blinder against HBK 4 years ago so I reckon they could pull off a great re-match when HBK comes back (and if Hogan and Vince can sort out whatever problems stopped him working WM).

ECW must feel like Wigan have with the Gleeson deal, giving a lot away and getting rubbish in return. There's no way that ECW trade would have gone through in reality.

ECW has 14 wrestlers on it's roster (1 ECW original left)

ECW has now brought up 4 wrestlers from developmental though, including Irish Sheamus O'Shaunessy. WWE have signed Jemma Palmer to developmental, who worked on UK Gladiators as Inferno. Tazz had his no compete clause expire today, it is rumoured that he will make his debut at TNA Victory Road in an advisory role for Samoa Joe. Speaking of Victory Road, here is the poster www.tnavictoryroad.com/walls/1/1280_1024.jpg

ECW has now brought up 4 wrestlers from developmental though, including Irish Sheamus O'Shaunessy. WWE have signed Jemma Palmer to developmental, who worked on UK Gladiators as Inferno. Tazz had his no compete clause expire today, it is rumoured that he will make his debut at TNA Victory Road in an advisory role for Samoa Joe. Speaking of Victory Road, here is the poster www.tnavictoryroad.com/walls/1/1280_1024.jpg

That's 2 Gladiators wrestling now, and Matt Morgan appeared in the US version of course.


Plenty Brits now going round the ECW/Smackdown shows in Sheamus, Regal, DH Smith (Technically a brit), Finlay and Layla.

Just seen Sheamus on ECW, reminds me of Test sort of, only a lot paler, less steroids and a hell of a lot more ginger.

Ohh you would...you def...would.

There's also Paul Burchill, Norman Smiley (trainer in FCW), Drew McIntyre (Drew Galloway), and Stu Sanders both in development.

Hade Vansen was in development and was set to be called up to Smackdown! to feud with Undertaker, but got released instead in January.

In TNA there is The British Invasion - Nick Aldis, Doug Williams, and Rob Terry

Forgot about Burchill (then again, who hasnt.

)
After his Pirate gimmick, it went downhill for him, that C4 was awesome, should let him use it again.

Katie Lea as well, she's as british as can be.

Burchill, Sheamus & Drew McIntyre as a british heel stable could be quite good I think.

Quote ="Drachen Feuer"Forgot about Burchill (then again, who hasnt. icon_lol.gif ) After his Pirate gimmick, it went downhill for him, that C4 was awesome, should let him use it again. Katie Lea as well, she's as british as can be.'" Katie was German born but grew up in London. Burchill has been on compassionate leave recently as his brother Major Sean Birchall (33), was killed on June 19 in an explosion in Afghanistan news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8111385.stm They should give Burchill more of a chance as he can be really good but they cut down his move set and didn't give him a good gimmick, for his size he can even do high flying moves but they stopped that.

Quote ="Drachen Feuer"Forgot about Burchill (then again, who hasnt. icon_lol.gif ) After his Pirate gimmick, it went downhill for him, that C4 was awesome, should let him use it again. Katie Lea as well, she's as british as can be.'" Katie was German born but grew up in London. Burchill has been on compassionate leave recently as his brother Major Sean Birchall (33), was killed on June 19 in an explosion in Afghanistan news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8111385.stm They should give Burchill more of a chance as he can be really good but they cut down his move set and didn't give him a good gimmick, for his size he can even do high flying moves but they stopped that.

PIC?

Quote ="lister"Katie was German born but grew up in London. Burchill has been on compassionate leave recently as his brother Major Sean Birchall (33), was killed on June 19 in an explosion in Afghanistan news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8111385.stm They should give Burchill more of a chance as he can be really good but they cut down his move set and didn't give him a good gimmick, for his size he can even do high flying moves but they stopped that.'" Really drives me nuts this about WWE. Heard they did the same with CM Punk (never saw him in ROH though so not sure to what extent) - why would they want every wrestler to wrestle the same way instead of unique, exciting stars?! Just doesn't make sense IMO. It's one of the reasons wrestlers like Rey Mysterio can only do a fraction of what he was capable of in ECW and WCW. On the subject, would anyone else like to see the return of the Cruiserweight title and pushed? Maybe on ECW to give it a different feel to Raw and SmackDown?

Quote ="lister"Katie was German born but grew up in London. Burchill has been on compassionate leave recently as his brother Major Sean Birchall (33), was killed on June 19 in an explosion in Afghanistan news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8111385.stm They should give Burchill more of a chance as he can be really good but they cut down his move set and didn't give him a good gimmick, for his size he can even do high flying moves but they stopped that.'" Really drives me nuts this about WWE. Heard they did the same with CM Punk (never saw him in ROH though so not sure to what extent) - why would they want every wrestler to wrestle the same way instead of unique, exciting stars?! Just doesn't make sense IMO. It's one of the reasons wrestlers like Rey Mysterio can only do a fraction of what he was capable of in ECW and WCW. On the subject, would anyone else like to see the return of the Cruiserweight title and pushed? Maybe on ECW to give it a different feel to Raw and SmackDown?

However she looks, she could never better Victoria (Tara)!

Here's the moves that CM Punk doesn't do in WWE.

Anaconda Vice (Arm trap compression chokehold or an arm triangle choke)
Pepsi Plunge (Diving double underhook facebuster) - And we know why he can't use that one
Shining wizard
.45 Special (Indian deathlock surfboard)
Arm twist ropewalk leg drop
Corkscrew diving neckbreaker
Crooked Moonsault (Split–legged moonsault)
Delayed vertical suplex
Devil Lock (Armlock cloverleaf)
Devil Lock DDT (Hammerlock legsweep DDT)
Facewash
Jackie Chan (While sitting in a corner Punk grasps the top rope with one hand on each side of the turnbuckle and when the opponent attempts to pull Punk off the ropes by his legs, Punk performs a back tuck, landing on his feet)
Pepsi Twist (Jumping hammerlock twisted into a short–range lariat)
Punk–Handle Piledriver (Pumphandle reverse piledriver)
Rolling fireman's carry slam (he was allowed to turn this into the GTS however)
Springboard tornado DDT

On the Cruiserweight title, yes they should bring it back as it does allow the smaller guys or even anyone that is quick or a high flier to get used, like the X Division title does in TNA.

Those guys can usually do things that other wrestlers on the roster can't and so bring that extra level of excitement and a break from 300+ pound slow movers. With their new talent initiative on ECW they could bring in some wrestlers from around the world like ECW used to do and like TNA now does.