I won't say as you were, because I'd like to think we'd be a few levels above that.

Rooney, Berba, Giggs and Anderson all had great games with Gibson chipping in also but apart from his goal Nani was again poor. It's all well and good doing 27 step overs and beating three or four player but it means nothing when the final ball is so poor

Good to see city lose at villa however as Utds two games in hand have been built up so much as being the key to winning the title I am fancying us to lose at Blackpool on Tues.

www.guardian.co.uk/global/2011/j ... CMP=twt_fd

www.guardian.co.uk/global/2011/j ... CMP=twt_fd

Recording of Gray and Keys making remarks about Sian Massey, the funny thing is she actually got the one big call spot on so proved them two tools completely wrong www.footballtransfertavern.com/2 ... y-be-fired

Recording of Gray and Keys making remarks about Sian Massey, the funny thing is she actually got the one big call spot on so proved them two tools completely wrong www.footballtransfertavern.com/2 ... y-be-fired

It's on tubeyou aswell under "Andy Gray & Richard Keys Sexist Rant - Audio *HOT*"

I really can't see how they can keep their jobs over this. I really can't.

Although I agree fully with them

there are some things you just cannot do as the face and voice of a broadcasting company. Anything ending in an 'ism' is a no-no. Your controversial comedians can get away with it but the likes of Keys and Gray should be ultra PC.

They're in trouble here defo

I'll stick my neck out and say they're still there next week and indeed still there at the end of the season.

And next season and many more.

Just stupidity, why the fook they say this I'll never know, they know anything can be picked up at anytime. Proved wrong though weren't they. Idiots.

They'll get a slap on the wrist and have to kiss Clare Short's ar5e, but that's it.

And the reason is simple - 99% of us agree with what they're saying. Their bosses at Sky TV will say they are totally against this, but behind closed doors they'll laugh about it. The Sky TV HR rep may think this is a serious issue, but the rest of Sky TV won't care.

Atkinson's Desailly moment was massively different. Atkinson was one one talking head out of dozens. He was easily expendable. He was also offending black people, so if Atkinson stayed in a job they'd have to defend their position to Desailly, Gullit, Pele, John Barnes, Chris Kiwomwa, etc, etc...

Keys and Gray are the #1 and #2 of Sky's football presentation. Football is the most important part of Sky TV. They've offended 3 refs and lino's, the tea ladies and receptionists of football clubs, Clare Short, mintball and Karen Brady. But who gives a **** about them?

The media debate being led by Karen Brady after this may make them squirm, but it will also make them laugh that they are having to listen to a debate about sexism from a ***** who got her place by sucking Slimy Sullivan.

I don't like Keys or Gray and it'd be funny if they got canned over this, but they won't.

I dunno. The media these days are such that they don't give up until they've got their victims committing suicide or on the bones of their a$$. I think a lot depends on whether the early part of next week is busy with real news or not. If it's quiet there will be plenty of people queueing up to stir this issue.

I'd love to see a grovelling appology from the two of them.

Well they'll be on MNF tonight so we'll see.

They will apologise and that will be that and rightly so.

Quote ="PAUL M"They will apologise and that will be that and rightly so.'" Seems that way www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12263398

Quote ="PAUL M"They will apologise and that will be that and rightly so.'" Seems that way www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12263398

If they had "joked" about her not understanding the offside law it would have sounded naff but not that big a deal. It was the sour tone of their comments that took it to a different level. They really sounded very unpleasant individuals, particularly Keys. Leaving aside the sexism issue, will Sky really want their flagship programme to be fronted by such an obviously dislikeable person as Keys has revealed himself top be?

Another secret recording of Andy Gray by one of Murdoch's companies.

Who's Andy Gray suing at the moment?

Blackpool's Charlie Adam hands in transfer request.

Gray and Keys have been stood down from Monday Night Football tonight...

Charlie Adam is risking a lot there. I wouldn't want to get on the wrong side of Ian Holloway. I am scared to death of his psychotic post-match interviews, never mind having to tell him face to face that I wanted to leave.

Karren Brady needs to wind her neck in. Apparently this all started because she'd been accused of encouraging West Ham players to help the board get rid of Avram Grant, which she insisted was "sexist".

No Karren, it's not sexist. It's because nobody likes you or the fact you got where you are by sweet talking David Sullivan into giving a massive account to LBC when you worked there. Nothing to do with whether you're a woman or not.

Apparently Brady claimed in her latest column that "I know more about the offside law than perhaps a girl should." So is Brady also a sexist?

Sure I read that she wants equality in the workplace yet 75% of staff she hires are women. I expect Gray and Keys to apologise over the next couple of days and be back in place for this weekends Super Sunday.

Pretty spot-on that

Good post, mate. Spot on for me, I've never liked Keys anyway so the sooner he gets fooked off the better. If he it was done in a jokey way then it wouldn't have been an issue but they actually sounded really bitter and unhappy because a female was running the line. Considering they've been in TV so long it was really unprofessional.

Personally, I don't care who runs the line as long as they are good at their job.

I would say that you're out of touch there pal in a pretty big way. You may think it but to suggest that a woman can't call an offside decision because of her gender is just ridiculous. Good article [url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/9371621.stmhere[/url.

Hopefully they'll keep the two dinosaurs in the background until Sunday 6 February. Then they can take themselves off to Upton Park for the West Ham v Birmingham game. It would also be a nice touch if Sian Massey was appointed to the game too. They could then make their apologies in person AND IN PUBLIC