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| Quote ="thepriestman85"It's pure BS that we are talking 2 King.
It's exactly the same kind of crapoola as the Pauleta to Wire rumours a month back.'"
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I ain't got a clue if Wigan are looking at bringing king in but I know for a fact saints inquired about him about 6 weeks ago.
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| Quote ="Hardcore Legend"Matt King has stated publicly in an interview that the only clubs he would play for would be Melbourne Storm and Warrington Wolves'"
Yeah, and Solomona once famously said that he would never play for any other British club but Wakefield.
How many clubs has he been to since then, including yours?
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| Quote ="Cruncher"Yeah, and Solomona once famously said that he would never play for any other British club but Wakefield.
How many clubs has he been to since then, including yours?'"
Exactly, at the end of the day it's a job, King doesn't have a huge number of years left in his career and will surely want the best contract he can get.
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| Richards/King on one wing?
Our game plan would be so simple.. high bomb to that side, jump, catch, score.
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Cullen has also hinted that he will make moves to sign dual-registration trio Joe Mellor, Logan Tomkins and Dom Crosby on a permanent basis.
He said: “The three young lads from Wigan have been a revelation since they came in and we would love to have them here full-time.
“But Wigan are yet to name their coach for next season so we have to respect that for the time being.”
I'm guessing he means on loan for the whole 2012 season. I wouldn't want to see any of those three leave Wigan on a permanent never to return basis.
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Cullen has also hinted that he will make moves to sign dual-registration trio Joe Mellor, Logan Tomkins and Dom Crosby on a permanent basis.
He said: “The three young lads from Wigan have been a revelation since they came in and we would love to have them here full-time.
“But Wigan are yet to name their coach for next season so we have to respect that for the time being.”
I'm guessing he means on loan for the whole 2012 season. I wouldn't want to see any of those three leave Wigan on a permanent never to return basis.
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| I think Cullen means when they are in SL doing a loan deal which will mean them being at Widnes full time.
There's not a chance in hell of Wigan releasing those three.
Mellor might be our bench half back next year if Deacs retires.
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| Season long loan deals for any of the 3 that can't get a place here would be great business for us. To get to watch them closely as week in week out superleague players would give us a great indication of their talents and would have them ready at a moments notice to step into our side.
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| Quote ="Mr.Side"9 players over 30? Ouch.'"
That may go some way to explaining their increased lack of competitiveness over the last couple of seasons.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"That may go some way to explaining their increased lack of competitiveness over the last couple of seasons.'"
You lot are 7 come season end(that maybe 6 with Gleeson gone)
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Cullen has also hinted that he will make moves to sign dual-registration trio Joe Mellor, Logan Tomkins and Dom Crosby on a permanent basis.
He said: “The three young lads from Wigan have been a revelation since they came in and we would love to have them here full-time.
“But Wigan are yet to name their coach for next season so we have to respect that for the time being.”
I'm guessing he means on loan for the whole 2012 season. I wouldn't want to see any of those three leave Wigan on a permanent never to return basis.'"
Ahahaha! No chance.
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"You lot are 7 come season end(that maybe 6 with Gleeson gone)'"
of that 6 3 are retiring and 1's future at the club is in doubt (and does not get a game in the first team because a 19 year old is keeping him out)
its not going to be that much of a problem. deacon will more than likely be replaced from within by Joe Mellor. Coley may well be replaced from within by either Crosby or Davies. should Carmont retire he will be replaced from outside the club. and if Roberts were to leave i am not convinced we would see a direct replacement, just his cap space spent elsewhere.
Hardly a massive job for the club to manage i would argue.
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"You lot are 7 come season end(that maybe 6 with Gleeson gone)'"
Your correct, we'll have six players who are thirty or above before the season ends. But one doesn't turn thirty until midway through this season, Finch.
With Coley, Deacon and Carmont all more than likely retiring at the end of this year.
We'll have four players aged 30 or over for the 2012 season. Fielden 32, Richards 30, Finch 30, and Roberts 31.
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| Quote ="LovesToSpooge"Your correct, we'll have six players who are thirty or above before the season ends. But one doesn't turn thirty until midway through this season, Finch.
With Coley, Deacon and Carmont all more than likely retiring at the end of this year.
We'll have four players aged 30 or over for the 2012 season. Fielden 32, Richards 30, Finch 30, and Roberts 31.'"
Of those four, Roberts is not being used and his contract will be allowed to expire, while Richards is running around like a spring-chicken. The only concerns I'd have is over Fielden - how will he recover from his injury? - and Finchy, who is still not firing on all cylinders, though he's firing on more than he was.
Wigan have no worries at all regarding the age of their squad.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"Of those four, Roberts is not being used and his contract will be allowed to expire, while Richards is running around like a spring-chicken. The only concerns I'd have is over Fielden - how will he recover from his injury? - and Finchy, who is still not firing on all cylinders, though he's firing on more than he was.
Wigan have no worries at all regarding the age of their squad.'"
Agreed, I think Roberts is done for. I just don't see him reclaiming a spot in the 17. If we could offload him during the off-season great. If not like you say, he'll have to wait his contract out. Which will be shame, but may well work in Wigans favor if it encourages him to want to leave.
To be fair to Fielden, I don't remember him missing many game for us during his time at Wigan. Whether times now court up with him, as it eventually does with all players, remains to be seen. But he has had a very hard career, playing a lot of games and hell of lot of minutes for a prop, particularly in his early days at Bradford.
I really am astounded by Pat's recovery. A lot of us were wondering whether he'd ever fully recover from that injury, having seen what it had done to so many other players. But credit to Pat and the Wigan medical team. He's playing as well as he ever has, and that was pretty much from his first game back.
Putting a side Finch's ever improving form. His actual fitness and health appears very good. Yes he had trouble with that neck injury, but I believe that was the only major injury he's suffered in his career to date. The fact that he was able to out pace Briggs in the CC over 60 meters really surprised me, and defensively apart from odd lapse in certain games he's looked safe as houses.
Madge and Wane may get most of the plaudits. But credit where credit's due. Mark Bitcon alongside Madge and Lenegan has been one of the best things to happen to Wigan in a long time. I don't know what Mark's contract status is, but I really hope he won't be joining Madge at South Sydney in 2012.
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| Quote ="LovesToSpooge"Agreed, I think Roberts is done for. I just don't see him reclaiming a spot in the 17. If we could offload him during the off-season great. If not like you say, he'll have to wait his contract out. Which will be shame, but may well work in Wigans favor if it encourages him to want to leave.
To be fair to Fielden, I don't remember him missing many game for us during his time at Wigan. Whether times now court up with him, as it eventually does with all players, remains to be seen. But he has had a very hard career, playing a lot of games and hell of lot of minutes for a prop, particularly in his early days at Bradford.
I really am astounded by Pat's recovery. A lot of us were wondering whether he'd ever fully recover from that injury, having seen what it had done to so many other players. But credit to Pat and the Wigan medical team. He's playing as well as he ever has, and that was pretty much from his first game back.
Putting a side Finch's ever improving form. His actual fitness and health appears very good. Yes he had trouble with that neck injury, but I believe that was the only major injury he's suffered in his career to date. The fact that he was able to out pace Briggs in the CC over 60 meters really surprised me, and defensively apart from odd lapse in certain games he's looked safe as houses.
Madge and Wane may get most of the plaudits. But credit where credit's due. Mark Bitcon alongside Madge and Lenegan has been one of the best things to happen to Wigan in a long time. I don't know what Mark's contract status is, but I really hope he won't be joining Madge at South Sydney in 2012.'"
Good post, all of which I agree with.
Roberts may have been awesome in 10-12 games of his Wigan career but no matter how awesome he was, the fact that he's been average at best for the rest of his time here isn't acceptable if you want to be a long term Wigan 1st teamer.
And FWIW, I have a hunch Fielden will have a terrific twilight to his career.
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"You lot are 7 come season end(that maybe 6 with Gleeson gone)'"
The good thing for us though is that out most pivotal players like Sam, Joel, O'Loughlin, Leuluai and Richards are all on the right side of 30 and some by a distance. That can't be said about Leeds and when you look at your most important players in recent years guys like Webb, Senior, Peacock etc are all pretty close to the end and you don't seem to be producing quality youngsters in the numbers you were.
Some big decisions need to be made at Leeds in the next couple of months if they're not to be left behind.
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| Quote ="MadDogg"
And FWIW, I have a hunch Fielden will have a terrific twilight to his career.'"
I get that feeling aswell. He has got better and better throughout his Wigan career after a slow start and has alot of competition on his hands for a spot in the 17. I think that will be a good thing for him though because he seems to be at his best when he's got a real competitive pack around him and he will work his nuts off for his place.
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| Gill Dusdon looks a heck of a prospect in the lobbies v Fax game on now.
He is putting himself around a bit and i have got to say he is a big unit.
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| Benji Marshall and Billy Slater to Wire and they still have room for a few more world class signings [urlhttp://viewtopic.php?f=21&t=496280&p=16169176#p16169176[/url
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| Quote ="EastStandFaithful"Benji Marshall and Billy Slater to Wire and they still have room for a few more world class signings [urlhttp://viewtopic.php?f=21&t=496280&p=16169176#p16169176[/url'"
Easy. All they need are bigger brown paper bags.
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| Quote ="tugglesf78"Gill Dusdon looks a heck of a prospect in the lobbies v Fax game on now.
He is putting himself around a bit and i have got to say he is a big unit.'"
I think he is a dual contract with the Crusaders so could be on the market if the Crusaders are dropped back down. Wigan blessed with back rowers but I like the look of Marinaro(spellling) at Wakefield: I don't know why HKR let him go.
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| Quote ="LovesToSpooge"Your correct, we'll have six players who are thirty or above before the season ends. But one doesn't turn thirty until midway through this season, Finch.
With Coley, Deacon and Carmont all more than likely retiring at the end of this year.
We'll have four players aged 30 or over for the 2012 season. Fielden 32, Richards 30, Finch 30, and Roberts 31.'"
From the Leeds 9 cross doesn't play. Leeds need to move a good few of those 9 on we have plenty of quality kids to come in.
I think Leeds will lose at least 4 of those 9 leaving 4 and cross?Who Is turning into our very own amos u20's super star.
The problem Leeds have is playing as a unit which is the coaching as much as the players.
The pies have a great squad. The biggest thing at Wigan is getting the next coach right. An average squad with a few gems coached well can win a title.
top quality players with an average coach can look great at times and then a total shambles! All in the same 80 mins! Actually from set to set in attack and defence.
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