He's said plenty already, if we're honest. The newspapers have run several articles over the last few weeks, in which he's given his various views on the situation.

Plus, I don't think IL is saying anything here that a lot of fans haven't been saying for quite some time.

It's best not to feed the trolls who want to stir trouble for our new coach. Nobby's gone, and a new era has begun.

i think is a sad day for british rugby league coaches when the way forward seems to be aussie coaches where,s ellery when you need him

About his deal yes, in terms of working relationship & IL's leadership he hasnt, all he said was they agreed to disagree!

Dancing on ice?

that was last year lol

He got stuck on the rink

It's the Mirror who have taken a quote from IL and put a headline on it saying IL is accusing Noble of not getting the players fit. Nowhere in the article does IL mention Noble or does IL make such a direct accusation.

I dare say IL has a number of things he expects a head coach to do and I suppose you could say if he mentions any of them the implication is he doesn't think Noble did a good job with respect to whatever it is he is talking about but to say IL is making accusations against Noble is accepting the headline as the truth of the matter.

This is just the Mirror taking a quote and putting their spin on it.

Dave

Yeah i read that article yesterday, saw the line, the only direct quote is that 1 or 2 players aren't fit enough, nothing about noble, nothing we or the opposition fans don't mention at any opportunity.

Lets bring Q back!

Imagine what it would do for the club having such a guy working with the youngsters and senior players. The holiday would most certainly be over

Wane and Pongia in the same coaching set up!

one thing you can say about brian noble is that he comes across as professional and dignified. he has had to carry on trying to do a job after the kearney affair. that can't be easy and i think everyone involved with the club should draw a line through it, wish the guy well in the future,and move on.

I don't see anything in that article about their working relationship. I see a hint of dissatisfaction that a well-paid job wasn't done properly. But let's not forget headlines from Nobby like "I can't wait forever" and "eventually you get the message", all of which implied that he was being treated poorly - to me those are equally comments on their relationship. Then we had the drunken ranting to a bunch of Wigans fans in Australia, which very quickly made it onto the internet.

At this rate, in about two months we'll be seeing Brian Noble as some kind of martyr rather than a coach who in three and a half years couldn't get our potentially most devastating forward to lose a stone in weight. Even the Peter Foxes of this would could have managed that.

Enough said.

Pongia has just been given the role of assistant coach at Canberra Raiders for 2010.

It looks as though he's doing pretty well.

So the players are unfit, and he expects his head coach to make sure they are fit. Hardly spin of the century.

IMO Leneghan's right but I think it should have been kept in house.

I was just about to say that we all should know better than to believe every word that is written in newspapers but DaveO has said more or less the same thing first.
Press and media outlets will always sensationalise bits of news just to make them more interesting or appealing. I think both IL and BN have conducted themselves with dignity at a time when it was obviously difficult for both of them. None of us will agree 100% with everything that is done at the club all the time and it is no use talking about what should or shouldn't have happened - it's gone and we have a new coach - let's look forward to what he may achieve with us and move on.

Although I would have loved him at Wigan that’s excellent news and I’m glad to hear he’s got his foot on the coaching ladder.

You couldn’t have honestly met a nicer guy off the pitch imo and a true great of the game.

Hampo it is then

Peter Fox was a great coach in his era.

Bringing in another ex-player would only bring the same problems with it. Bring in a sports science professional not somebody who decided to become a conditioner when he finished playing. This was the problem with Forshaw he had no pedigree.

No, BN has come out of this with Dignity, not IL, who just seems to make himself look a bigger idiot every time he opens his mouth.

What will todays daily leneghan gaffe be?

That is exactly what is going on here and if anyone has an issue with IL or is a great fan of BN they may well take the headline as the truth when in fact the Mirror made it up.

Dave

To be fair as you all know have praised Brian Noble for his efforts in taking Wigan "the club" in the right direction, and defended him.

But IL is correct if in his opinion some of the players are not fit enough the onus rests on the read coach. It maybe Forshaws job but it was nobles responsibility.

Noble has always stayed loyal to his players and staff, that maybe is to his own detriment.

It is the jobs for the boys mentality or surrounding themselves with poor support staff that i feel is what has contributed to many coaches downfall including Noble.

Speaking from experience I was working inside a club whose coach was nominated for coach of the year, got them in the playoffs and had a fantastic season, 2 of his support staff left including the conditioner and he brought in someone who was in my opinion a joke in that capacity, before the end of the next season he had gone from a top coach being banded about as a GB coach to unemployed, now back in the game in the National Leagues.

A coach must surround themselves with top quality staff. John Kear is the master at it.

In my opinion Maguire has to bring someone with him to condition the team someone he already knows of, and rates, anything else would be a major risk on his part, personally not convinced by Hampson either, were he not an ex Wigan player i doubt there would be any call for him.

We as a club have to get out of this jobs for the boys mentality, and to be fair it looks like we have.

That wouldnt by some chance be a former GB prop would it!!!!

To be fair to IL, he is correct.

The papers obviously put their own spin on things and wasn't it The Mirror who quoted IL at a fans forum last year and put the comment in completely the wrong context? Can't remember it exactly.

I don't like the idea that there has been some friction between IL and Noble but if there has then it's been done now and there's nothing we can do. IL did thank Noble, obviously, in the press release and he's been quoted in the papers as doing so. But there is simply no sentiment in business.