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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"I'm sorry but I'm gong to have to disagree.
If Goulding had made the right decisions with ball in hand at Hull Wigan would have won the game
He made poor decisions defensively v Cas.
Brian Noble obviously sees it the same way as I do.
However, is it poor coaching, or players not obeying instructions?
I think it was John Monie who said that defense is a team thing, tackling is an individual thing.
Tim Smiths tackling was diabolical v Cas.
Darrell has to learn from his mistakes otherwise he will be following Aspinwall down that well trodden road.'"
Who is better ?
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| Quote ="THELAST3YARDS"Who is better ?'"
I suspect Noble might think Pryce is (when fit)
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"I'm sorry but I'm gong to have to disagree.
If Goulding had made the right decisions with ball in hand at Hull Wigan would have won the game
He made poor decisions defensively v Cas.
Brian Noble obviously sees it the same way as I do.'"
Jack Kerley got it right when he said that you and him were watching different games.
To blame Goulding for defeat against Hull is ludicrous. One of the breaks he slowed for support and Phelps was nowhere to be seen, another he caught the ball above his head and by the time he controlled it he was smashed by a great hit by Byrne.
Blaming him for Smiths faults against Castleford is laughable. Cullen got the Castleford analysis spot on on Boots N All, as did Offiah on Sky Sports. Funny none of them blamed Goulding, or most Wigan fans that I have spoken to either. Like I said if you are saying Goulding was bad in that match then Bailey was as bad, or worse as he missed more tackles, against Harlequins.
Noble has always made the youngsters the scapegoats, Goulding, McIlorum, Prescott, Joel Tomkins and O'Carroll have all be victims on numerous occasions in the past. I am sure Sam Tomkins and Ainscough's turn will come. Based on performances this season at least half the team should have been dropped before Goulding. Just because Noble has done so means nothing and certainly does not mean that Noble agrees with you, unless you personally know him and he has told you so. As you say though we will have to agree to disagree.
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| We looked twice as dangerous when TL when to hooker, he is brilliant at the quick play the ball and TL is at his most dangrous when he is running at the line rather than trying to be a play maker.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"I'm not anti Darrell Goulding but he has been poor this season. When his chance comes again (and it will) he has to take it,just as Ainscough and Tomkins have.'"
Agreed. There seems to be a school of thought that because he is from Wigan and a nice lad, he can do no wrong.
Currently he isn't good enough, whether he ever will be is up for debate. Noble repeatidly gives him chances, he has yet to take them.
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| Quote ="HKB"We looked twice as dangerous when TL when to hooker, he is brilliant at the quick play the ball and TL is at his most dangrous when he is running at the line rather than trying to be a play maker.'"
Agreed.
Tommy is a strong and elusive runner, but will never be a creative half-back.
Hooker is probably the perfect role for him at this stage of his career.
It takes all the pressure off him, and allows him to do what he does best, run.
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| Tommy's style at hooker is very similar to Tevita Leo-Latu at Wakefield.
He and Brad Drew work well together and hopefully Riddell and Leuluai will eventually have a similar partnership.
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| Quote ="Simmy"Jack Kerley got it right when he said that you and him were watching different games.
To blame Goulding for defeat against Hull is ludicrous. One of the breaks he slowed for support and Phelps was nowhere to be seen, another he caught the ball above his head and by the time he controlled it he was smashed by a great hit by Byrne.
Blaming him for Smiths faults against Castleford is laughable. Cullen got the Castleford analysis spot on on Boots N All, as did Offiah on Sky Sports. Funny none of them blamed Goulding, or most Wigan fans that I have spoken to either. Like I said if you are saying Goulding was bad in that match then Bailey was as bad, or worse as he missed more tackles, against Harlequins.
Noble has always made the youngsters the scapegoats, Goulding, McIlorum, Prescott, Joel Tomkins and O'Carroll have all be victims on numerous occasions in the past. I am sure Sam Tomkins and Ainscough's turn will come. Based on performances this season at least half the team should have been dropped before Goulding. Just because Noble has done so means nothing and certainly does not mean that Noble agrees with you, unless you personally know him and he has told you so. As you say though we will have to agree to disagree.'"
Very good post
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| Quote ="riversider"Very good post
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Forgive me for asking, but are you actually applauding your own post here?
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| Quote ="Cruncher"icon_lol.gif
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Why? I take it by that you dont agree.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"icon_lol.gif
Forgive me for asking, but are you actually applauding your own post here?'"
Why? I take it by that you dont agree.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"icon_lol.gif
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| Quote ="Spurry"Never seen such a slow no9 , he takes forever to pick up the ball and distribute it to the runners...seems like big mistake signing him , we played a lot better when Leuleui went into dummy half'"
He aint that slow
[urlhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=no1W1f8RvQ0[/url
Look at this turn of pace and pins is ears back lol
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Forgive me for asking, but are you actually applauding your own post here?'"
Having checked the ip address it looks that way yes. What a loser.
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| Quote ="JTB"Having checked the ip address it looks that way yes. What a loser.'"
Oh dear..............
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| Quote ="JTB"Having checked the ip address it looks that way yes. What a loser.'"
Busted!!
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| Quote ="JTB"Having checked the ip address it looks that way yes. What a loser.'"
I think you will find we are not
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| Quote ="Simmy":2dai3dm1I think you will find we are not
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| Quote ="JTB"145.229.156.40 [ 8 Posts [ Look up IP address
Users posting from this IP address
Simmy [ 8 Posts [ Search
riversider [ 8 Posts '"
Why show his IP address? Isn't that confidential?
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| Quote ="JTB"145.229.156.40 [ 8 Posts [ Look up IP address
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Simmy [ 8 Posts [ Search
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I am not the same as Simmy. It is more than possible though to have the same IP if you are in the same company with a static IP.
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| He was better on Saturday, but still doesn't get to dummy half often enough. Smith had to do the first 1-2 play the balls of each set as Riddell wasn't there.
This may be a tactic, I don't know. It's early days for the guy, but first signs of improvement on Saturday, mainly in the first half.
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| Quote ="riversider"I am not the same as Simmy. It is more than possible though to have the same IP if you are in the same company with a static IP.'"
Oh indeed. Just a happy coincidence that they choose to applaud your posts then
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| Quote ="JTB"Oh indeed. Just a happy coincidence that they choose to applaud your posts then
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It is no more of a coincidence than all the people on here who are friends on here applauding each other is it, or do you need to be part of the clique that seems to exist on here to do that
By the way I would appreciate it if you would remove my IP address as it is confidential information.
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| Quote ="riversider"It is no more of a coincidence than all the people on here who are friends on here applauding each other is it, or do you need to be part of the clique that seems to exist on here to do that
By the way I would appreciate it if you would remove my IP address as it is confidential information.'"
An IP address is not confidential, otherwise some companies wouldn't record it when you buy online from them.
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| Quote ="JTB"145.229.156.40 [ 8 Posts [ Look up IP address
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riversider [ 8 Posts '"
I'm surprised it was only two users.
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