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| Quote ="Clearwing"I seem to recall similar arguments when the GF was introduced, where people maintained that winning the league was the greater achievement. That argument has gradually disappeared as almost everyone now acknowledges that the GF is the greater prize. '"
But "greater achievement" and "greater prize" aren't the same thing.
IMO the league is the greater [iachievement[/i, as it rewards performances over 27 games, not just a few. Deciding which is the greater [iprize[/i is partly media-led and partly prize money related - both of which are largely influenced by SKY, who do a wonderful job in ignoring the CC competition.
(Incidentally, to pre-empt some criticism, I've always held that opinion, not just because we're currently league leaders!)
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| Quote ="Geoff"But "greater achievement" and "greater prize" aren't the same thing.
IMO the league is the greater [iachievement[/i, as it rewards performances over 27 games, not just a few. Deciding which is the greater [iprize[/i is partly media-led and partly prize money related - both of which are largely influenced by SKY, who do a wonderful job in ignoring the CC competition.
(Incidentally, to pre-empt some criticism, I've always held that opinion, not just because we're currently league leaders!)'"
The greatest achievement surely has to be the hub cap, but is the least recognised - financially and status wise. (i.e. The best team over the course of the season) as opposed to two seperate competions (CC - 5 games to win), (GF 3-4 games to win).
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"if you read the thread you will find you are wrong'"
You obviously didn't read the thread.
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| Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"You obviously didn't read the thread.'"
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| Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"In your mind maybe, not in anyone else's.'"
Not anyone elses ey?
Quote ="Gotcha"No disrespect  But not so for a club who are constantly winning, and where the reality is that in comparison to the GF, the CC might aswell be the old Yorkshire/Lancashire cups.'"
Quote ="Gotcha" The Challenge Cup is like the old Yorkshire/Lancashire cups, if you win it fine and yes as with any winner you celebrate it, but as long as you win the big one who really gives a 5h1t. Â And that is basically what it means to us.'"
Quote ="Bondi_Warrior" and thats the problem with the CC, supporters attitude towards it. Im not saying thats wrong but its quite sad that less and less fans seem to care about it.'"
Quote ="Beastwood"Well sure, the players and fans would love a trip to Wembley and we wont deny we would like to win the CC this year.
[uBUT[/u if it was a choice between the CC and winning 4 in a row then it's simple. GF wins everytime.'"
Quote ="shyloc"i don't think anyone would question weather the league and grand final are worth more than the cup.'"
Quote ="sgtwilko"i agree it would be nice for Leeds to win the cup. IMHO I think the players want it more than the fans. but as a fan I would alway want to be champions over cc winners.'"
Quote ="Clearwing"I seem to recall similar arguments when the GF was introduced, where people maintained that winning the league was the greater achievement. That argument has gradually disappeared as almost everyone now acknowledges that the GF is the greater prize. I suspect a similar process is underway with the CC and 10 years hence very few people will regard it as a comparable success. Which, if correct, is a great pity.'"
Looks like a few have similar thoughts
Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"You obviously didn't read the thread.'"
I think I did pal!
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"Not anyone elses ey?
Looks like a few have similar thoughts
I think I did pal!'"
Thanks for going to all that trouble to prove my point.
As you'll see those other posts are looking at the relative merits of the CC v the GF - apart from Beastwood who seems to be another Leeds fan getting the excuses in early as well in case they lose. You say:
Quote no shape or form is winning a challenge cup a comfort if you lose the gf. Saints in 07/08 can tell you that. Maybe the money men would be happy but not the players nor the fans. If you are a club like wire or hull it's massive. The ccf is a great day out but it means nowt if you are title contenders and get beat gf night.
this is not trollin I swear, for Wigan to win either trophy would be massive for you lot as it's been so long and it's the start of something new.
i agree it would be nice for Leeds to win the cup. IMHO I think the players want it more than the fans. but as a fan I would alway want to be champions over cc winners.'"
Hence my comment that it's not either/or - you can have both.
HTH.
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| Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"Thanks for going to all that trouble to prove my point.
As you'll see those other posts are looking at the relative merits of the CC v the GF - apart from Beastwood who seems to be another Leeds fan getting the excuses in early as well in case they lose. You say:
Hence my comment that it's not either/or - you can have both.
HTH.'" but thats not what i said is it fella.
You said only in my mind is the gf a bigger prize than the cc.
a few agree with me. you moved away from the point I made and said that winning both is an a prefered option? Do ya think! If you have a point it's lost on me.
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"but thats not what i said is it fella.
You said only in my mind is the gf a bigger prize than the cc.
a few agree with me. you moved away from the point I made and said that winning both is an a prefered option? Do ya think! If you have a point it's lost on me.'"
Jebus wept.
I basically said you were posting like it was a choice between winning the CC or GF - NOT which was the bigger prize. Capice?
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| Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"Jebus wept.
I basically said you were posting like it was a choice between winning the CC or GF - NOT which was the bigger prize. Capice?'"
My honest opinion is the harder the comp gets the tougher it is to win both. The next team that does needs huge respect!
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| y r most y wire fans so mouthy, i no you get good and bad fans at all clubs at all sports but y iz it the only trouble i hear about and the mouthy experiance i av encouterd has come frm a wire fan, are they really the scum of superleague,
errrrr yeah i think so,
wigan 4 eva.
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| Thought this thread was about ticket updates not petty he said this you said that nonsense. get back to talking about the topic
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| Leeds have priced most fans out of coming to this fixture with their greedy attitude.
Considering this game is between two of the top sides and there are only 10,000 tickets available, it should have sold out ages ago, regardless of it being on tv!
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| Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"
As you'll see those other posts are looking at the relative merits of the CC v the GF - apart from Beastwood who seems to be another Leeds fan getting the excuses in early as well in case they lose.
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Not at all, infact all I was saying was if I had to choose i'd take another GF win over the cup [ueverytime[/u.
However i'd love to win the CC aswell, make no mistake. But if we lose in the cup and win the GF i'll be happy. No early excuses, just how I feel. *shrug*
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| Quote ="Beastwood"Not at all, infact all I was saying was if I had to choose i'd take another GF win over the cup [ueverytime[/u.
However i'd love to win the CC aswell, make no mistake. But if we lose in the cup and win the GF i'll be happy. No early excuses, just how I feel. *shrug*'"
But if the wining the Challenge Cup meant that you didn't win the Superleague Grand Final would you be happy?
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| I've made my feelings on the CC very clear on others threads
Despite what some Leeds fans think of the cup I'm sure the players are desperate to play at Wembley as only Senior has done that and it is the only medal missing from most players collections, and with the financial rewards I'm sure the club are just as desperate so despite what a few people post on an internet forum Leeds RL will be trying their best to succeed where they have failed for the past 11 years.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"
But if the wining the Challenge Cup meant that you didn't win the Superleague Grand Final would you be happy?'"
No.
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| Quote ="martinbuckley"[size=200Leeds have priced most fans out of coming to this fixture with their greedy attitude.[/size
Considering this game is between two of the top sides and there are only 10,000 tickets available, it should have sold out ages ago, regardless of it being on tv!'"
Both clubs have to agree to a price and share the profits dont they?
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| Bicker bicker bicker
Have we sold our allocation?
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| Quote ="EastStandFaithful"Bicker bicker bicker
Have we sold our allocation?'"
Went past the ticket office at 4.15 tonight and there was still a sign on the window saying 'Leeds tickets'
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| Quote ="Orrell Lad"Went past the ticket office at 4.15 tonight and there was still a sign on the window saying 'Leeds tickets'
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I cannot see any info on the Wigan or Leeds websites to say if you can pay on the day (I know you cant pay at the turnstile unless you go to a certain Crusaders turnstile and give the guy a tenner ).
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| Quote ="Orrell Lad"Went past the ticket office at 4.15 tonight and there was still a sign on the window saying 'Leeds tickets'
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Liar, the sign was taken down at five past
You can pay on the day, but at the ticket office rather than on the turnstiles. If the cricket is rained off then it makes the whole 10,000 limit and the related hoo-haa all a bit pointless really.
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| My mate went up to Headingley on Fri afternoon and there was just 700 tickets left. Should imagine it will be sold out - Us Leeds fans have just left it late thats all. Big fuss over nothing.
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| Quote ="Leyther_Matt"Liar, the sign was taken down at five past
You can pay on the day, but at the ticket office rather than on the turnstiles. If the cricket is rained off then it makes the whole 10,000 limit and the related hoo-haa all a bit pointless really.'"
Watched the forecast & yes it's going to rain all day - certainly no cricket whatsoever today!!!!!!!!
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