Quote ="Rogues Gallery"And how do you propose to pay there players more money, when they are losing money from all angles? How can the game afford to raise the salary cap? Look at these, from two of our "better run" clubs" https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/comp ... ng-history https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/comp ... ng-history Just click on the annual returns'" Some reality at last. Most people who scream raise the cap don't realise that money doesn't just appear out of thin air. You can raise the cap as much as you want. Salaries won't go up if clubs do not receive any extra revenue. Until the game creates more revenue streams salaries will stay the same.

Quote ="Rogues Gallery"And how do you propose to pay there players more money, when they are losing money from all angles? How can the game afford to raise the salary cap? Look at these, from two of our "better run" clubs" https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/comp ... ng-history https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/comp ... ng-history Just click on the annual returns'" Some reality at last. Most people who scream raise the cap don't realise that money doesn't just appear out of thin air. You can raise the cap as much as you want. Salaries won't go up if clubs do not receive any extra revenue. Until the game creates more revenue streams salaries will stay the same.

You're the last person who should be throwing insults like that about given this embarrassment:

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To be fair, Solomona's agent has links (i.e. they own companies together) to Ian Lenegan, so he's swinging but not that wide.

FWIW I don't understand this animosity between the clubs.

A company completely unrelated to anything to do with Clarke's agency business. To claim Wigan RL has anything to do with Sale and Solomona is, like I said, embarrassing.

Sale have links to Salford, but I've yet to see Koukash implicated. I wonder why?

You haven't looked far enough then. There's a 100+ page on the Cas forum with many, many theories. It's just people looking for someone to blame.

One way to increase the benefit players can receive without the clubs having to spend money would be to allow external sponsorship, sponsored vehicles, player endorsements, etc but I suppose that upsets the "level playing field" argument that has completely engulfed the original aims of the salary cap.

Spot on.

It's great putting up annual returns, but that's a club 'going it alone'. Even if the club managed to secure 20 businesses at a £20k investment that's £400k in the bank.

Put that into perspective the company I work for pays about £80k a season for corporate football tickets at City, United and Liverpool. Whilst it's great hospitality you don't get access to players etc which I'm sure Wigan could arrange. Cars is another one where the players are getting to feel the love.

It's something that would be available to all clubs, but as with these things some clubs will be better than others at it. Such is life though

I could save them about 100 pages:

- Denny Solomona
- Andy Clarke
- Steve Diamond

Wow. Reading through this as a genuine neutral, and you've turned me. You ARE an absolute halfwit and an embarrassment to your club, and the sport.

Quote ="Rogues Gallery"And how do you propose to pay there players more money, when they are losing money from all angles? How can the game afford to raise the salary cap? Look at these, from two of our "better run" clubs" https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/comp ... ng-history https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/comp ... ng-history Just click on the annual returns'" How would the Leeds Rhinos figures stack up Rogues? I was informed that the Rhinos turn over more than both Wigan and Saints do put together

Quote ="Rogues Gallery"And how do you propose to pay there players more money, when they are losing money from all angles? How can the game afford to raise the salary cap? Look at these, from two of our "better run" clubs" https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/comp ... ng-history https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/comp ... ng-history Just click on the annual returns'" How would the Leeds Rhinos figures stack up Rogues? I was informed that the Rhinos turn over more than both Wigan and Saints do put together

I cant believe you really think that....they dont want their cake and eat it they want their player they are paying to play, simple. Solomona scored lots of tries last year but he didnt do it all on his own think he will get found out very quickly and will love it if cas are successful is taking all his cash and then he falls flat on his face.

https://www.insidermedia.com/insider/no ... ale-sharks Try some proper losses, nearly all pro sport depends on its owners.

https://www.insidermedia.com/insider/no ... ale-sharks Try some proper losses, nearly all pro sport depends on its owners.

I believe the hostility dates back to season 2006 when we were relegated, and Wigan blatantly fiddled the salary cap figure to stay up.

Based on that theory, we should be halving the wages of the Tomkins brothers, neither of whom have ripped up trees for their high salaries.

Still crying over this



We reconfigured existing player contracts, to backload them into future seasons - in turn freeing up space in the 2006 season to sign Fielden. No rules were broken (the same practice had occured previously in the NRL even). Lots of crying ensued and the RoFL made up a rule to punish us. The End.

I suspect it's more to do with us beating at your own pad last season when, for some reason best known to yourselves, you'd convinced yourselves you were going to win.

Oh was that the game when we celebrated with a celebratory team photograph like the winners we are, Or are they still angry about Kelvin Skerrett's swinging arm?

I think Kelvin spent to many evenings in the pubs and clubs of Cas with mams of Cas fans. It's the only rational explanation I can come up with. That or the other alternative rationale is that we really are the club of the devil.

Yes thanks for that "reconfigured" did that include Radlinski coming out of retirement for the remainder of 2006's, playing for "no fee" to aid the team during their personnel struggle.

Yeah I'd forgotten that little detail. Seems not many in Cas have

I'd like to look back on how we responded to 2006:

Noble steadied the ship.
New ownership.
Concentrated on youth development.
Brought in an ambitious assistant coach from the NRL.
Topped the League.
Won Super League.
Won the Challenge Cup.
Replaced coach with Wigan born assistant coach.
Won Super League.
Won Challenge Cup.
Another couple of seasons just missing out as Champions.
Won Super League with half a team, made up of young Wigan lads.


How have Cas done since 2006?

yep whats wrong with that?

Is anyone aware of what the current level of funding provided to clubs by the RFL is? This is always going to be a significant portion of revenue for the clubs and until this increases on a major scale we'll always be one step behind.

The next NRL funding agreement for example is muted to be around 130% of their current salary cap (currently $6.1m) per season. Are we even in the same ball park?

2016 the game Wigan won and the ref was that bad Cas fans stated he had been removed from SL the following week, it never happened.

Super 8 game Cas win and the ref is that bad he is removed from SL the following week, but not a peep out of the sister lovers and their coach

Personally I don't like the move that Solomona pulled, the club don't deserve that and it could set a dangerous precedent, that they can somehow blame Wigan shows how bitter their fans can be.

Most of the animosity from other clubs like Cas Tigers toward Wigan comes from your total disregard of anything other than yourselves. A typical example been the stunt you pulled this week with the "bus trip" to Sale Sharks.

It's OK to point at your success been the factor - but take a step back and think. Why are you the most despised club in SL ?