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| Quote ="jonh"We do not need a team that is young across the board an experienced Prop is vital Petro would fit this bill, we do not have to continue building for the future 2 years from Petro would be ideal.
We need continuity in the halves and at 9 generally the rest of the positions it is less important especially Prop, i do not think we should look for anyone that offers only a year but 2 years is fine in some positions in my opinion.'"
I would agree but to ignore the availability of someone with the potential of Louie McCarthy Scarsbrook would be foolish. Players like this should be signed up before their parent clubs resign them. E.g Joe Westerman and Sam Burgess. Just imagine those two in the same side at club level
But if we were to look abroad I would go for Luke Bailey. He is only 28 and would be coming over at the right age and could offer more in terms of years of service than Petero.
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| Quote ="cadoo"snip.'"
Regards LMS is he not OOC at the end of 2010?
We need a Prop for 2010, Quins would be nuts to let him go a year early.
I think LMS is a possible direct replacement for Fielden for the 2011 season, Bailey Petro for example would be ideal.
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| Quote ="cadoo" I like Leuluai but he is far more suited to 9.'"
Why not keep him on as reserve hooker for a year and let McIlorum go out on loan and decide from there which are the best 2 to keep?
Is LMS off contract by the way?
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I couldnt care if they were 40 both are sheer class and would still rip it up, easy two years out of them both.'"
Seriously stop and think about what you’re saying.
Your advocating signing two players who although good are declining forces within the game! We can sign both of them and I’m sure they’ll put in some good performances, fans will love them and occasionally they may produce a moment or two of genius. But after they leave what do we do then? We are back to square one constantly recruiting the same positions over and over. It also effects other areas of the team as when you have a prop and HB coming off contract every two seasons it means you can’t necessarily strengthen the other areas you want to as the SC won’t stretch that far.
Saints on the other hand will probably just sign McCarthy Scarsbrook and Fox at the end of the season and cause they are good players with a hell of a lot of potential they’ll slip straight into the Saints team and bang Saints have covered two areas in their team for the next five to eight years and then can look at strengthening other areas knowing these are covered for a long time to come.
I know which policy I’d rather see us adopt.
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| Not the most creditable of sources but according to the Quins forum.
[urlhttp://viewtopic.php?t=91771[/url
He is off contract contract in 2009. I can't find anything else that tells us his contract status.
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| Bugger, good call the rest of you!
[urlhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_league/super_league/london/7068645.stm[/url
In that case Jonh I agree with your previous post.
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| Luke Bailey or Petero then?
With our recruitment record I'd be happy with either
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| Quote ="kirkamania6"Luke Bailey or Petero then?
With our recruitment record I'd be happy with either
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Luke Bailey.
At 28 he has more to offer.
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You think a 37 year old could stil rip super league up?
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| Quote ="cadoo"Quote ="kirkamania6"
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Nah I think he knows I have him so he has to make a joke to get himself out of it
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| lockyer might go back too fullback .too prolong his career. hunt will prob leave broncos. broncos have other 5/8s too cover lockyer
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| If we brought in top class props and then have a front row that can dominate games for 80 mins every week then Leuluai & Tomkins could be ideal.
Both are young and could form a partnership for 8-10 years.
We don't really know what Tommy could do when behind a winning pack game after game. He's never had that in his time at Wigan.
The priority has to be the front row and the quality of the props we bring in.
If we have a winning pack it changes everything.
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| Quote ="Father Ted"If we brought in top class props and then have a front row that can dominate games for 80 mins every week then Leuluai & Tomkins could be ideal.
Both are young and could form a partnership for 8-10 years.
We don't really know what Tommy could do when behind a winning pack game after game. He's never had that in his time at Wigan.
The priority has to be the front row and the quality of the props we bring in.
If we have a winning pack it changes everything.'"
We will get 1 prop at most for the 2010 season
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| Quote ="kirkamania6"We will get 1 prop at most for the 2010 season'"
I agree. There'd really be no sense in buying more than one new prop. We currently have five, which is one too many from the POV of O'Carroll and Prescott (and isn't Ben Davies a young prop as well?). If Coley leaves at the end of this year, we could probably justify replacing him with someone really good - but to buy two new props is simply non-viable if we want to spend money usefully elsewhere.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"I agree. There'd really be no sense in buying more than one new prop. We currently have five, which is one too many from the POV of O'Carroll and Prescott (and isn't Ben Davies a young prop as well?). If Coley leaves at the end of this year, we could probably justify replacing him with someone really good - but to buy two new props is simply non-viable if we want to spend money usefully elsewhere.'"
Unless we can somehow get rid of Fielden as well Noble would need to go before any chance of that though
Fielden getting form would be ideal
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| Quote ="Cruncher"(and isn't Ben Davies a young prop as well?)'"
Yes Ben Davies is a young prop as well. Looked very impressive against Warrington.
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| Quote ="post"No way Glenn Hall he is average. He is the Aussie equivalent of Ricky Bibey.
We need a prop_
1- Steve Price
2- Andy Lynch
3- Mark O'Meley
4- Petro Civeniceva
5- Kylie Leuluai.
In that order go for them.
Also we need a stand off -
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2- Karmichael Hunt
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4- Thomas Bosc
I would make a play for Justin Hodges too as a right centre, its worth a go.
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I dont want Pat wasted at FB, if our half backs had half a brain as soon as we got in their 20 I would kick to the corner for Pate, nobody will out jump him and we would score every time, why dont they do that?'"
Don't be too realistic, will you. Lockyer, Lyon, O'Meley, Civoneciva. No chance.
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| Quote ="~ No1 Saints Fan ~"Don't be too realistic, will you. Lockyer, Lyon, O'Meley, Civoneciva.
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If we have the money, why not?
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| dont worry, im sure we will lose the hundreds of k's in 'upgrades' or just in the wind as last year
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| According to the express yesterday, we are moving for Lynch for next season.
I think Mathers, Coley, Bailey, Phelps & Smith are gone at the end of the year. I think anyone would be suprised if they stayed.
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| Quote ="AJ"According to the express yesterday, we are moving for Lynch for next season.
I think Mathers, Coley, Bailey, Phelps & Smith are gone at the end of the year. I think anyone would be suprised if they stayed.'"
Good news about Lynch, would do the job and is English
Wouldn't lose sleep over any of those players either
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| Quote ="AJ"According to the express yesterday, we are moving for Lynch for next season.'"
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