Now thats good of you

Half of the fathers in St Helens don't know they are anyway, so it's hardly the greatest excuse in the world.

There not coming "Just in case they are!"

They didn't bring anybody the last time we were favourites in a derby either (how good is my memory)

There are some who define confusion as Fathers Day in St Helens.

I'm taking my dad to the game. Buying the ticket for him solves the present problem aswell!

Bearing in mind there is no excuse, what is the excuse of the Wigan fans who have had worse turnouts than we'll have on Sunday several times over the last 10 years or so? Or the dismal turnout at Murrayfield?

We've taken more fans to the JJB that you lot have to KR year in year out for a long, long time so I wouldn't get too precious about it.

Warrington brought more than Wigan this year too I reckon.

Murrayfield- your mob came on a skateboard. Wigan took much more to scotland.

There were plenty Wigan fans at Murrayfield FACT

We sold our allocation and bought plenty from Saints FACT

You get more tickets at the JJB/DW than we do at KR FACT

We will have the highest average attendance this season FACT

Now on your way, come back Sunday night after we have assesed how really dismal Saints turn out was

I'm talking challenge cup final, not murrayfield tragic.

Your end was half empty, why would you buy extra from Saints?

You bring more to dw than we have to kr in years gone by ive had to crawl in wigan traffic through billinge owd lad thats howmany wigs have taken to kr atleast 7000

Now your just talking bull

Care to back up your "FACT" about selling out your Murrayfield cup final allocation and "FACT" about buying extra tickets from Saints then?

There were more Wigan fans in the Murrayfield Stadium than Saints fans when the final whistle blew. FACT

Wasn't it a sellout when we beat you 18-10 in the last ever Knowsley Road derby game? How could we have brought any more?

This is getting silly now.

We all know Wigan's support in derbies at KR is impressive - we can't do much more than sell out the allocation your club gives us. If Warrington receive a bigger allocation than us, then naturally they will sell more tickets.

Similarly, we also all know that Saints' support at our place is usually top noth. The North Stand is usually full, and you end up creeping round into the East Stand too.

Hence why this year's reported sales total from Saints has raised so many eyebrows.

That was about the game at your dump of a stadium, not Murrayfield

He was on about the Good Friday derby this year wasn't he?

We did indeed sell our allocation for that and plenty bought them from Saints whereas back in 2002 our ticket sales ahead of the final at murryfield we're pretty pathetic tbh but the people that back the side through thick and thin were there and what a great day it was



Petty ticker arguments are boring really aren't they! We've got a derby coming up on Sunday that promises to be one of the very best in a long time and surely theres more then enough to talk about in terms of what will happen on the field without needing to bother about ticket sales(or lack of) of it.

Just 46 left in the South...

The new online ticket system may be good for telling everyone how many tickets have been sold but its useless for actually buying tickets, at least for me.

Trying to buy 3 tickets in the West and it keeps cutting out to a screen saying 'There has been an unexpected error'.

2098 left 31 in the south

I was there til the bitter end

As long as it breaks 20k that's the main thing as far as publicity goes in my opinion.

Looks well on course to do that.

Just out of curiosity, did the blue bit of Wigan get many gates over 20K? I take little or no interest in wendyball.