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| Quote ="Dai Jones"Roachford could be the new Ged Byrne with a bit of luck (Versatile Wigan lad playing for Salford, not world class in any position but a very handy jack of all trades). IL should get ready for a transfer tribunal..
Can he clean windows?'"
Ged Byrne could never get into a fully fit Wigan side, he was bascially cover. In the salary cap era why would we spend money on a player like that? We have a great youth system who provide the first team with excellent cover. Plus we have Roberts.
I'm not too keen on the idea of Ratchford, in this era money has to be carefully spent on players who can really offer something which we don't currently have, like an experienced quality centre or an outstanding young UK talent.
If we were liked with Cooper or Briscoe I'd be all for it.
I say wait and see what other players become available, be savy with the cap. I'm also thinking Charnley, despite playing on the wing could in time prove to be an excellent centre, he displayed his talent in the position when playing for KR against SL opposition.
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| Quote ="ksm1701"
Young people ask your Mum or Dad.'"
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"Ged Byrne could never get into a fully fit Wigan side, he was bascially cover. In the salary cap era why would we spend money on a player like that? We have a great youth system who provide the first team with excellent cover. Plus we have Roberts.
I'm not too keen on the idea of Ratchford, in this era money has to be carefully spent on players who can really offer something which we don't currently have, like an experienced quality centre or an outstanding young UK talent.
If we were liked with Cooper or Briscoe I'd be all for it.
I say wait and see what other players become available, be savy with the cap. I'm also thinking Charnley, despite playing on the wing could in time prove to be an excellent centre, he displayed his talent in the position when playing for KR against SL opposition.'"
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| i've heard a rumor that Daryl Goulding want's away as he's had enough of playing in the 20's. Has anyone heared anything??
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| Quote ="mr ree"i've heard a rumor that Daryl Goulding want's away as he's had enough of playing in the 20's. Has anyone heared anything??'"
Doubtful, not long since signed a new contract!
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| Quote ="AJ"Doubtful, not long since signed a new contract!'"
he signed a deal when he was first choice for Wigan and England. Think he will be lucky to get either birth back so it would not surprise me.
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| Quote ="jonh"he signed a deal when he was first choice for Wigan and England. Think he will be lucky to get either birth back so it would not surprise me.'"
Same here. IMO it would be better for him if he left Wigan. Hes at the age now where he should be playing first team week in week out but he's never going to get in the team unless we have a bad run of injuries. The day Gleeson left was sadly also the end of Gouldings Wigan career IMO. Shame really because they were shaping up to be a class wing/centre partnership. He just isnt as effective without Gleeson.
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| No, Goulding may also be our new centre nexy season. We cannot afford not to keep our depth. It is that which won us the title.
We cannot allow goulding, gleeson, pryce, carmont and amos to all go in one season
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| Quote ="Tricky Dicky"No, Goulding may also be our new centre nexy season. We cannot afford not to keep our depth. It is that which won us the title.
We cannot allow goulding, gleeson, pryce, carmont and amos to all go in one season'"
That's the price of success. players want to play! players wanna get paid!
You can only have so much depth and pay a certain amount. The cap sees to that. The better the Wigan kids get the more they will want for their services. Some will get more some won't. Some will stay others will leave. Some will have to leave to open space for the new kids. You become a victim of your own success.
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"That's the price of success. players want to play! players wanna get paid!
You can only have so much depth and pay a certain amount. The cap sees to that. The better the Wigan kids get the more they will want for their services. Some will get more some won't. Some will stay others will leave. Some will have to leave to open space for the new kids. You become a victim of your own success.'"
You can only keep so many home grown players, the better they get the more they want (can't knock anyone for asking for more). The transition from "promising" to "proven" costs. It seems unfair but some clubs are by default a victim of their own success and other teams will benefit from the academy players they develop.
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| Quote ="Tricky Dicky"No, Goulding may also be our new centre nexy season.'"
Not a chance. He is dire in the centres.
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| Just because he's been out of the side for a few weeks doesn't mean he should be shown the door - some people adopt very short-term views.
Goulding's a very solid player and was championed towards the end of last year as the most improved player in the side. He'll never set the place alight but an extremely useful player to have in your squad.
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| Quote ="MadDogg"Just because he's been out of the side for a few weeks doesn't mean he should be shown the door - some people adopt very short-term views.
Goulding's a very solid player and was championed towards the end of last year as the most improved player in the side. He'll never set the place alight but an extremely useful player to have in your squad.'"
It doesnt all just boil down to that though, what if Goulding is not happy just being a squad player? He signed his 3 year deal as a Grand Final winner, 2nd top try scorer in SL and an England international with his future ahead looking great at Wigan. Now he cant get in the team. If he has ambitions he will want to be playing Super League week in week out and its not fair on him sticking him in the under 20's because he is too good for that. Maybe if Wigan dont want to let him go, a Loan deal would suffice.
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| Goulding was talked out of leaving Wigan once before when he was unhappy at apparently having fallen out of favour. If he'd not listened to IFL and had left the club, he would have missed out on a fantastic season and a Grand Final winner's ring. It would quite possibly have been the biggest mistake of his, or anyone else's, entire career.
Is he going to make a similar mistake now?
He's already had it proved to him that if he can find the adequate form he will be a regular fixture in the Wigan first team.
I guess it's his call but I hope he heeds advice from the right sort of people, and not those who seem to persistantly hang around the Wigan junior ranks, encouraging youngsters to leave because "they are not valued".
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| Quote ="The Ginger Pearl"www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=rleague/11/05/19/RUGBYL_Wigan.html&BID=480'"
Would like to see Deacon do another year personally, IMO he was far more instrumental in last years championship winning team than he was given credit for. If he feels he can play on I'd be happy for him to do so, gives the younger players another year to mature, maybe they could play a few games if deacon was rested, meaning they aren't thrown in the deep end?
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| Quote ="Dave26"Would like to see Deacon do another year personally, IMO he was far more instrumental in last years championship winning team than he was given credit for. If he feels he can play on I'd be happy for him to do so, gives the younger players another year to mature, maybe they could play a few games if deacon was rested, meaning they aren't thrown in the deep end?'"
No doubt, Deacs has the best kicking game of all our players. Tommy couldn't kick to save his life, Lockers and Sam do their best, Mickey Mac seems hesitant. As it's so important, I'd like to see Deacs stay on and spend time teaching the future lads some skills.
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| Quote ="Dave26"Would like to see Deacon do another year personally, IMO he was far more instrumental in last years championship winning team than he was given credit for. If he feels he can play on I'd be happy for him to do so, gives the younger players another year to mature, maybe they could play a few games if deacon was rested, meaning they aren't thrown in the deep end?'"
I totally agree but I cant see us getting another yearout of him. It is no coincidence that we have looked much better in attack since he returned from injury. We just have a much better balance when he is in the team.
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| Quote ="The Ginger Pearl"Not a chance. He is dire in the centres.'"
He is hardly dire in the centres and played centre for England at every level underage level. I also know that Shaun Wane rates him highly there. He played 2 games in the centre last season and was very good in them both of them, particularly the Hull game which may have been his best performance of the season. In his only game this year at centre this year he did nothing wrong either. He has never really had a regular run at centre and hasnt played there much at all since a teenager. Even then though I saw him have some very good games where he outplayed the likes of Senior and Hape.
I cant believe that some are writing him off already just because he has missed a few games. He has though always been one of the favourite scapegoats of some on here so it is hardly too surprising. He had a poor game against Catalan where he went off injured early on and due to the form of the team and Charnley hasnt got his place back which is fair enough and is no different than what happened last season with Goulding/Roberts/Pryce. Prior to this he has had Marsh inside him and has barely got a pass or opportunity all season. When he has though, such as against Leeds, he has finished and played well. It is a long season and there is a long way to go before writing off a Goulding yet, particularly when some where doing the exact same this time last year and we all know what happened after that.
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| I really hope Goulding isn't played in the centres next year, even if we don't sign anybody there will still be Joel for one spot and Charnley and Pryce to battle over the other. Keep Goulding on the wing.
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| Quote ="Grimmy"I really hope Goulding isn't played in the centres next year, even if we don't sign anybody there will still be Joel for one spot and Charnley and Pryce to battle over the other. Keep Goulding on the wing.'"
Don't you mean Marsh?
I would be very surprised if Pryce was a Wigan player next year.
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| Quote ="proper-shaped-balls"Don't you mean Marsh?
I would be very surprised if Pryce was a Wigan player next year.'"
Absolutely, surely the fact he was allowed to play against his parent club whilst on loan, together with his actual performance in that game, is a clear signal his Wigan career is over. Makes you wonder why we bothered signing him up for another year.
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| Quote ="proper-shaped-balls"Don't you mean Marsh?
I would be very surprised if Pryce was a Wigan player next year.'"
I wouldn't consider Marsh at centre, too ball greedy and too weak. Pryce might not be living up to his potential but he's a hell of a try scorer and his defence is pretty decent, he even boomed Lima at the weekend! I bet he's cheap too, I'd give him another year.
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| Marsh, Goulding and Pryce all not good enough to be a Wigan centre. Maybe Marsh as a winger.
Not are in Charnleys league.
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