Imagine my suprise that it hasn't been yet.

Don't need any 'Average' players. For that role we have Lockers.

Never know an announcement to be made in a Morning Yet they are usually don in the afternoon

I was stunned to the point of full blow shock

Key area of signing is a prop, I'd like two.

Enforcer and Impact to do the 20min spells with Feka.

The most important would be a 60 min enforcer prop with Captain leadership qualities.

Hard to find, but what is needed. Probably this is how we use our CAP money and overseas quota spot. I think the Aussies overall, do produce this time of player better than we do.

Despite his age I think Wiki (if he could have been fitted into the CAP) would have been ideal.

Ben Cross is ya man

Didn't see many NK games last season, however when I have seen him I do rate him.

If he puts the up his team mates, leads by example, runs aggressive and will bring some fire into the team then he will could be the player we're looking for.

But for what kind of money?

Money is often the issue. But lets look at what will be available after we offload the players we want rid.

Phelps
Bailey
Smith
Mathers
Coley.

Will this be enough CAP space to get him in? We don't need any of them players regardless.

This is always the question that fans like us can not really answer.

You can't just cut contracts and throw the money at big-name Aussies, regardless of whether the current crop are 'fit to play for Wigan' or not.

To some extent you have to go with what you've got. Rebuilding a team is a slow process these days.

This enforcer/Capt 60min man is the main issue for next year I think.

CAP should go to this player.

I'm only keen on bringing in an Aussie for big cash if they are truly worth it. i.e Barrett.

Maybe the other positions will have to wait to be filled.

After next season Fielden's contract will be up, we can use that money for other key roles. New 7, New 1 for example.

Possible build...

1 Richards till 2010/2011 NEW FB to be brought in, in 2010/2011 when Fielden's contract expires, maybe by then Vivers will be good enough also.
2 Richards to wing when new FB arrives
3 Gleeson
4 Caromont
5 Ainscough
6 S Tomkins
7 NEW 7 hopefully 2010, with the money from Phelps etc
8 NEW ENFORCER CAPT etc hopefully 2010 with the money from Phelps etc
9 Tommy
10 Prescott
11 Hock
12 Lockers
13 J Tomkins
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Feka, PROP FROM RESERVES, Riddell Farrell
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Money generated from sales of (when contract expires or if something can be neg beforehand)

Hansen
Coley
Bailey
Phelps
Smith
Fielden
O Carroll
Mathers
Goulding
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Over time, bring in a new FB, if needed, and an impact prop.

Roberts?

Get Gleeson on board he will score a bag full.

who would be our top 2 wingers if we brought it a top out and out fullback?

I would prefer

Richards and Ainscough.

Not Roberts.

Well worded.

Youve lost me

I agree

We have not had 2 good for a long time for ages we have had one of our wingers that never gets the ball i.e. Calderwood last year i think that is the main reason we never get the ball out wide as we are limited to playing that way on one side of the field give us loads more options when Gleeson gets here.

Cant agree. Roberts is proven, just needs to be passed the ball. Which currently is rare.

which takes up back to our eternal problem........we keep getting centres who cant/wont pass

Roberts hasn't impressed yet but you do make a valid point. The majority of our attacking plays goes to the left.

So considering how many points Richards gets us with his kicking alone, with how well Ainscough is playing and developing as a young Wigan lad you'd sooner see Roberts starting above one of them?

Who do you think has had a better attitude? Richards/Roberts or Ainscough/Roberts?

No contest. Richards and Ainscough are the first two choice wingers IMO.

Not so simple IMO. The ball goes to Carmont more than it goes to Bailey.

This is one reason why I'd really like us to sign Gleeson. He's a specialist centre who plays to his winger, who, in the form of Roberts, happens to be greased lightning. Anyone who doesn't rate Amos, can't have seen him play very much.

Only 2 wingers on the field people. who you gonna start and why?

Richards
Ainscough for me.

i'll concede that point.

carmont does offer more in attack than bailey.....baileys in there to shore up the defence, which isnt much use when we're attacking.
teams just load up one side of the park and we are then clueless.

we need 2 centres who can pass and tackle........like keith senior.