Dont you have a fair point of view.

O Driscoll is a very good rugby player. Hes got the better of Faz for Ireland. Try to be objective instead of the usual crap were better than them without actually knowing that much about the player.

It would. Now what's your point? Does this make him any less of a player?

I am talking about the absolute ability here, not which code they play.

You mean a specialist centre outplayed an ex RL PROP (who was, let's face it injured and over the hill) in a game that prop had been playing for 18 months as opposed to 15 years?



Please.


At least make point's that you can defend.

Sorry Faz went to prop when we had to use him. He was still loose forward when we did have enough players to cover. Point that you seemed to miss.

But werent you calling him Trash. And judging him on ability. Now he has more skill and ability than any centre is SL. Only Gidley comes close to him. He can run the ball, brings players in and leads very well.

Now surely any SL player is better than any union Trash.

I accidently watched a few minutes of the France v Italy game while waiting for something to start on sky (i can't stop channel surfing), there was 5 or 6 kicks on the stick end all within 1 miute of play, i shouted obscenitys at the tv and flicked over, what a pile og Dog Shit

Well in the game that I saw him play for Stade Francais he was dire.

Why should he have 2 when you don't seem capable of looking at anything without your ignorant all RU players are crap glasses on?

You miss the point.


If you are seriously trying to compare O Driscolls centre play vs England to Faz (which you were) then you are deluded.


Now on your other point, I would rather have, for example, Carmont in a Wigan RL side any day of the week to O Driscoll. Any day.


Against an organised RL defence O Driscoll would be made to look what he is - very very average.

Now, given 5 years of the Communist Cap, I have no doubt that the future generations of RU players WILL be better than their SL counterparts.

However, for the moment, that is not true.

Now where have I said that ALL RU players are crap?

Cite this and I will shut up.

Fail to cite this and I will point to you posting bollox.





All RU players are NOT crap.

I wouild have Flutey and Shane Williams in my side any day.

Cannot be bothered reading this thread but to state O'Driscoll is average shows a massive ignorance of him as a player.

Just read the last page and you actually do think he is average.

On the subject of O'Driscoll, the commentary team were virtually peeing their panties over his 'amazing lines of running'. Looked like he did what any centre would do.

Average player in an average game.


I have many Irish (RU supporting) friends and we debate RU vs RL a lot.

Hence we analyse each others games.


I stand by my statments.


O Driscoll would get nothing out of at least half a dozen RL centres.

Union player run far better lines than SL players Sl players just drift most of the times. You get a player like Lyon who cuts an angle and people cream themselves!

Even by your own standard, that was an awful post.


Still, at least you didn't get the grammar and spelling wrong.

Well I show my ignorance of the Super League as I do not watch it. I watch Wigan and that is it. I much prefer the NRL.

Carmont is a decent centre were getting carried away. He not in the same class as Senior was or even Gidley is now. Driscoll is a much better player than Carmont. Driscoll breaks tackles most games and is a different type of centre to Carmont. Driscoll leads the side well and is one of the best captains in world rugby of either code.

Driscoll would walk into any SL side. And the prietsman85 has a valid point. BTW you called all runion players crap once you said Driscoll was Trash. Hes the best player in the competition.

AS for Shane Williams which seasons videos have you watched him play. He was average this season ok he did get injured but hes not even remotly being good enough for SL. On current form will not goet a place on the wing for the lions. Flyute is only half decent from what ive seen of him.

But let's analyse your statment there, for amusement value if nothing else.


I presume you mean Union players, just to get your grammar correct and enable me to understand the point that you are making.


So Union players run better lines than RL players eh?













Are you SURE?

No I didn't. I called O Driscoll trash.

Stick to the facts please, and stop making things up.

Notice how you managed to get your edit in before anyone managed to pull you up on it

It's a fair cop




I have been on the G&T's tonight you know

Quite.

l;earn to read. read the statement if in full

i said and i will repeat you called all union players crap once you called him Trash. Stop reading what you want as its obvious you dont want a discussion just your right were all wrong.

Its amazing the bigotry still exsists in todays society. You jsut cant face facts that some union lpayers are a lot better than league players. How many league players in the last 6 years have mae an impact in union. ! Robinosion all others have failed to make an impression on the game.

Werent leageu players far superior yet Faz has failed, Vainokolo failed, Pryce, failed, Harris failed, Hape failed. Paul failed.

Some of the best players in league yet have failed against players like Driscoll.

Well that explains why you're talking sh*te then

I love "debating" with you as you always break it down to the lowest common denominator, (always a sign you are in trouble by the way

) Watch a League game in the UK and watch how the players drift towards the touch line generally. Now watch a union game look at a straight runner or a centre who takes the line on in an attempt to give a player space.

O'Driscoll has great feet, good hands and a rock solid defence. He has played against a Kiwi legend in Tana Umanga who was the rugby player of his generation in both codes and was a superb league player untill he chose union and had him in his back pocket.

The lad is very very talented, but you chose to call him average.

I expect nothing less from you.

Robinson played with some great centres and he rates him as one of the best PLAYERS he has played with, but obviously you are right as usual, even in the face of superior evidence.....still a dyslexic lad may have made a spelling error so let focus on that!