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| Quote ="Father Ted"After all the signings made since IL bought the club we still need at least one prop now and another if/when Coley goes.
Last night only Feka & Fielden broke tackles. Coley & Prescott didn't break a tackle all night. Neither do they run with the power and aggression needed from today's prop forward.
The problem has been there before and since IL arrived and is still there now. At his first FF IL said "Why do we need props we've got eight".
He knows now why we need them and have for some years.
Until we get two far more powerful props than we have now into our front row the longer it's going to be before we can compete with the best.
What we also need desperately is a top class experienced play maker half back. We continually have teams on their try line and unless it's a kick struggle to break them down.
My ideal squad would be - Richards, Roberts, Gleeson, Carmont, Ainscough, New half back and Sam T. Fielden, Riddell, New Prop, Hock, Joel T, O'Loughlin, Feka, New Prop, Tommy (as a 9) Hansen.
Sam T is struggling at times to make play but it's difficult for him as most weeks he's playing behind a beaten pack. Put a new playmaker HB with Sam T behind a pack that can win most of not all games and the whole team could step up a gear and step up their performances. The wins would certainly follow!'"
I must of missed that bit
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| Quote ="Father Ted"After all the signings made since IL bought the club we still need at least one prop now and another if/when Coley goes.
Last night only Feka & Fielden broke tackles. Coley & Prescott didn't break a tackle all night. Neither do they run with the power and aggression needed from today's prop forward.
The problem has been there before and since IL arrived and is still there now. At his first FF IL said "Why do we need props we've got eight".
He knows now why we need them and have for some years.
Until we get two far more powerful props than we have now into our front row the longer it's going to be before we can compete with the best.
What we also need desperately is a top class experienced play maker half back. We continually have teams on their try line and unless it's a kick struggle to break them down.
My ideal squad would be - Richards, Roberts, Gleeson, Carmont, Ainscough, New half back and Sam T. Fielden, Riddell, New Prop, Hock, Joel T, O'Loughlin, Feka, New Prop, Tommy (as a 9) Hansen.
Sam T is struggling at times to make play but it's difficult for him as most weeks he's playing behind a beaten pack. Put a new playmaker HB with Sam T behind a pack that can win most of not all games and the whole team could step up a gear and step up their performances. The wins would certainly follow!'"
Don't kid yourself, Fielden hasn't broken a tackle in the last 3 seasons.
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| he hasnt broken sweat never mind a tackle
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| Quote ="~ No1 Saints Fan ~"Don't kid yourself, Fielden hasn't broken a tackle in the last 3 seasons.'"
I'm guessing he meant Hock.
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| Quote ="beasty"id like to see
1 pat richards
2 karl pryce
3 martin gleeson
4 george carmont
5 shaun ainscough
6 sam tomkins
7 matty orford
8 luke baily
9 tommy
10 feka
11 gareth hock
12 sean oloughlin
13 joel tomkins
14 lee mossop
15 mark riddell
16 harrison hanson
17 stu fielden'"
Roberts?
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| i like roberts but i think karl pryce will come good for us
defintly try get orford though sam would learn alot off of him
get rid of
phelps
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"Wigan are coming together as a team now, a few adjustments and we'd be right up there.
Richards (NEW A TRUE FB, don't care what anyone says but Pat will do for now)
Roberts Gleeson Carmont Ainscough
Tomkins (NEW 7)
ENFORCER/CAPT NEW PROP Tommy NEW IMPACT PROP
Hock Lockers
J Tomkins
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Feka, Riddell Prescott Farrell
SELL
Bailey
Smith
Phelps
Fielden (when poss)
Coley
Hansen
O Carroll
Goulding-Loan
Flanny-Loan
Mossop-Loan.
I can justify this entire moment.
Nuff Said
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| Fielden is deffo going at the end of the season with a player of better ability coming to us, can't say who but all will be revealed in time, i have been sworn to secrecy after accidently stumbling onto the crack
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| Quote ="loyalwiganer"b*****s'"
Explain....
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"Wigan are coming together as a team now, a few adjustments and we'd be right up there.
Richards (NEW A TRUE FB, don't care what anyone says but Pat will do for now)
Roberts Gleeson Carmont Ainscough
Tomkins (NEW 7)
ENFORCER/CAPT NEW PROP Tommy NEW IMPACT PROP
Hock Lockers
J Tomkins
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Feka, Riddell Prescott Farrell
SELL
Bailey
Smith
Phelps
Fielden (when poss)
Coley
Hansen
O Carroll
Goulding-Loan
Flanny-Loan
Mossop-Loan.
I can justify this entire moment.
Nuff Said
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2 impact props?
It has been documented on here a few times that in your 4 props you should have,
Enforcer
Worker
Impact (Feka)
Youngster (Prescott/Eamon)
I think we need a worker who can make solid metres instead of another impact prop because I think there would be a lot of pressure on either Prescott or Eamon to get through a bucket load of tackles which is not the sort of pressure we want on these players.
Luke Bailey or Civonaceva for next season to replace Coley
LMS to replace Fielden the season after because I don't think he will be released before the end of his contract although a swap involving him and Andy Lynch would do nicely
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| A deal with Bradford for them to take Riddell, Fielden and cash for Newton, Lynch and Burgess would do me fine!
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| Quote ="post"A deal with Bradford for them to take Riddell, Fielden and cash for Newton, Lynch and Burgess would do me fine!'"
And in other news
Elvis found alive and well living in a cave with his best pal shergar
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| Quote ="wigan_knight"And in other news
Elvis found alive and well living in a cave with his best pal shergar
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And don't forget Lord Lucan
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| Quote ="Andy Greg"And don't forget Lord Lucan'"
He's been hiding for all that time in the Warrington Trophy Room
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| Quote ="Andy Greg"And don't forget Lord Lucan'"
I didnt wanna sound to unconvincing
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| Quote ="Bert's Medal"He's been hiding for all that time in the Warrington Trophy Room
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When we moved to the HJ they didn't build one
No unnecessary costs
Same reason we sold you Gleeson i think
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| Quote ="Baked Bean Boogie"Fielden is deffo going at the end of the season with a player of better ability coming to us, can't say who but all will be revealed in time, i have been sworn to secrecy after accidently stumbling onto the crack icon_exclaim.gif'"
Ohh, that sounds painful !!!!!!!
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| Quote ="post"A deal with Bradford for them to take Riddell, Fielden and cash for Newton, Lynch and Burgess would do me fine!'"
Lynch and Burgess yes - Newton - no, too late we pretty much had the best out of hin.
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| Lynch should be our number one target imo to replace Coley.
The year after we should be looking at a LMS/L Burgess type signing to replace Fielden.
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Bryn Hargreaves?
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"Bryn Hargreaves?'"
Non
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"Bryn Hargreaves?'"
Would be an improvement for sure.
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Oui
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| Quote ="Baked Bean Boogie"i have been sworn to secrecy after accidently stumbling onto the crack
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The Enforcer prop is the worker prop. Leading by example making the hard yards and tackling up.
Look at it this way, start with a house enforcer/leader/capt and Feka for example, Enforcer (Ross, Luke Bailey will play for about 35mins being took off before half time (This is how they work these captain props in the NRL) Within this time you've had Feka smashing the line for 20. When he's blowing take him off an bring on another impact smashing the line for the rest of the half. Between the 2 you have 80mins of impact smashing the line. The younger prop (Prescott) fills in where needed, probably subbing for the enforcer. That's how to create a dominating front row.
You speak of a 'worker prop', well what do you think an Enforcer prop does? Just stand there pulling his face at the opposition? The young prop is a future 50/60min man, learning off the experienced enforcer.
Petro is too old. Bailey or Ross for me, Ross is more intimidating but Bailey has a great work rate. I would also consider the oger.
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