February 3, 1959 - the day the music died! All downhill from then on.

Rave on Peggy Sue.

I bet i've been to more games than most


I just chose not to go because I knew it wouldn't be a good game and we would win easily.

P.s Thanks Chris

Is that Simon Cowell's birthday ?

This is Wigan fans we are talking about mate..............

I would probably say, if people would like to get "involved" so to speak that attending a meeting may be pointless now as we have a full gantry and dont really need flag ideas, designs etc, your probably better off looking for the noisy section at an away game, introducing yourself and grabbing a flag/banner. Its moved on to what the real ultra scene is all about now, and thats a large group, mainly at away games (home games lads are sat in diferent stands) making an atmosphere using the big wavers, new songs and being noisy. Most of these people that are now involved away from home, I dont think even post on here. Its more than just making flags and waving them at home games, this "ultras scene" is to have a large group following that stand together, wave flags, banners etc you have to back it up with an atmosphere and a following, which now seems to have developed away from home and is attracting more people every week, I know Chris has had messages from various football clubs and fans praising our away support and displays.

But Wigan dont play that version..................

Part timer

I know yeah. too busy with the girlfriend these days

I think this needs more of a detailed explanation.

The thing is, she is a saints fan, and i'm slowly converting her ...

I was referring to the 'can't be bothered' comment

I know, I was just bringing up a popular argument on here ...

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As for being "Pointless" in attending the meetings I would suggest people who attend the meetings would be in a better place to judge if their pointless or not?





Many more ideas for flags for the West Stand being developed and more importantly other "Ideas" in the frame to enhance both Home & Away atmosphere.

I never said the meetings were pointless, I meant people getting involved might be better just coming to away games and grabbing a flag, the more the merrier. It might be a bit confusing going to a meeting and seeing all these faces, then getting involved in the atmosphere away from home and realising it's a conplete different bunch of people. I'd like to hear the new ideas and will be attending the next meeting. The thing that has disappointed me is that at meetings in the past we seem to get all these people "up for it" and then matchday comes and as per the hull game, we have jukesays and Conroy putting up the gantry flags as always, then myself and jimmybirts/warrior Lou with the wavers, everybody else seems to dissapear when it comes to actually putting on a display. The world club challenge was great, but this wasn't a "one game idea" as I said, same away from home, don't tend to see people getting involved in the atmosphere and holding of banners/flags, it seems to be a complete different group non of which actually post on here I don't think apart from 18th man.

I would attend the meetings if it was possible aswell. getting a lot of mention on here lately

Also forgot to mention nogga
And die Morti viventi, odemwingie who all get involved away

The problem i have sometimes is that I cannot get to a good number of away games (especially on Sunday afternoon's, or Friday night's at Hull), and when I do such as Wrexham last week I end up with tickets in the wrong stand.

You said =#FF0000"I would probably say personally, if people would like to get "involved" so to speak that attending a meeting may be pointless now as we have a full gantry and dont really need flag ideas, designs etc, your probably better off looking for the noisy section at an away game, introducing yourself and grabbing a flag/banner" and to me that means your sending out the message that going to the meetings was pointless and the only thing left to do now was grab a Banner and Wave? Whilst agreeing that getting people together to do this is important it's not by a long way the Only thing that needs doing.

There are a dozen other things being discussed and ideas muted, some about new flags others about displays (Card Displays etc) and other things such as Logistics of getting flags to games and volunteers to do them etc (Which I think we'll all agree you can't have too many of?).

I've not even scratched the surface with regards to the "organisation" of all of this which (And I know you know what I'm inferring here) needs to be discussed at the earliest and if not adressed will lead to problems further down the line for all of us?
Maybe it's those that think it is just about coming along, waving a flag (Or Blowing a Whistle etc) who need to be educated in how much work, organisation etc goes on behind the scenes?

End of the day Paul I understand that all the names mentioned do gave their time and effort and it is very much appreciated, How did they get involved? They got involved through the meetings and they understand the workings of it all behind the scenes. Something which the "Away" following need to be preaching at all times and Self Policing? Not just encouraging anyone to grab a flag and do what they want without understanding the ramifications?

If you want to get involved creating some atmosphere on the terrace come and find us at a game. If you want to volunteer your services/discuss ideas, go to the meetings. Simple.

well said.

Did I say anything different?
Just checking BTW


Could you not make last Thursday?

He means that gay 80's song by Scandal.

Nope, just simplifying a few paragraphs into a nice easy to digest two sentences.



No, I had plans on, missed my pints of bitter.