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| Only just got back and not seen the cards on tv so wont comment.
That was a hugely intense game between the two best sides in the comp by a distance. It says a lot that all the tries were scored from kicks bar the Hurrell barge over. Both sides were poor in attack but outstanding in defence.
I just wish the rest of the comp was as strong.
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| Must have stumbled onto redvee by accident here. I was told on good authority that everybody here is sane and reasonable!
Great game anyway, could have gone either way. Both defences were fantastic and it’ll be a surprise if some combo of us don’t win all the trophies this year. Can’t see anybody else living with either of us, although anything can happen in a one off cup game, of course!
Thought your discipline was really poor. Quite a lot of head tackles in the game. We dominated the first half, you fought back really well and right when it looked like you might get on top, momentum was swung again with a really poor tackle. Something you need to fix up, as it was a big problem for us last season and cost us a lot of points that would have seen us finish top
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| Quote ="Stu M"
I just wish the rest of the comp was as strong.'"
Why I didn't go down the bookies and put the house on KR this morning, I don't know!
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| Quote ="Trainman"That was Lees and yes, I’d expect a ban. Had it been picked up by the VR Lees would have been carded IMO. I think all 3 of Byrne, Dupree and Lees will get 1-2 matches.'"
Sky Sports couldn’t clip the replay quick enough and I don’t recall Thompson staying down for any length of time. I would be instructing my players to stay down long enough for the video ref to step in after today sadly.
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| Never a sending off too many games being decided by the referee I watched the game with fans of Wigan Saints Leigh and Wire non thought it was red if we continue down this line sport is screwed.
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| Quote ="DannyT"Sky Sports couldn’t clip the replay quick enough and I don’t recall Thompson staying down for any length of time. I would be instructing my players to stay down long enough for the video ref to step in after today sadly.'"
That I’d agree with. If Thompson stays down it gets reviewed and Lees walks, at least for 10. The Dupree one on the next tackle then doesn’t happen and we have a very different game. Percival did, but to be fair he did fail the resulting HIA. Thompson was pulled off for the HIA after the doctor reviewed the tackle.
I’m not sure which side of the fence I’m on regarding Sky. Many including myself have criticised them for focusing on controversial calls and what the referee has missed rather than bigging up the game and focusing on the positives. I like that they are doing more of that but feel it should at least have been mentioned as it was very relevant to the game. It was missed by the ref and VR so perhaps best left to the MRP.
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| Very intense game played by two very committed sides.
Wigan far too I'll disciplined to come out of that with a win although their outstanding defence almost pulled it off.
I thought Saints were never going to score , and probably wouldn't if we manage to keep all.our players on the pitch.
Both teams are going to be very hard to beat come the end of the season.
I felt we were too conservative in attack, there was very little shape to our attack, surprised we didn't try to expose Hurrell in defence, but credit to Saints who's line speed probably made that harder to achieve.
It's my one criticism of Peer that I think we are too conservative at times and go through the 'stay in the grind and the points will come' when a little.more offloading enterprise may open up tight defences.
And again not using Junior at all, and Mago sparingly is poor, although I guess the HIA and cards will have affected the plans.
Overall I thought a good game to watch, some frustrating bits, but not a bad kick up the to sort a few things especially our discipline out.
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| Better side won in the day maybe this defeat has been brewing for Wigan it will hopefully focus them a little more because Wigan have not been great since Penrith but of course won games luck as we know only goes so far.
Kendal not my favourite ref honestly got most things right be interesting to see if the panel hand out bans in due course it wouldn’t surprise me.
Oh well on we go
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| Quote ="Big Steve"Very intense game played by two very committed sides.
Wigan far too I'll disciplined to come out of that with a win although their outstanding defence almost pulled it off.
I thought Saints were never going to score , and probably wouldn't if we manage to keep all.our players on the pitch.
Both teams are going to be very hard to beat come the end of the season.
I felt we were too conservative in attack, there was very little shape to our attack, surprised we didn't try to expose Hurrell in defence, but credit to Saints who's line speed probably made that harder to achieve.
It's my one criticism of Peer that I think we are too conservative at times and go through the 'stay in the grind and the points will come' when a little.more offloading enterprise may open up tight defences.
And again not using Junior at all, and Mago sparingly is poor, although I guess the HIA and cards will have affected the plans.
Overall I thought a good game to watch, some frustrating bits, but not a bad kick up the booty to sort a few things especially our discipline out.'"
I really don't think Patrick Mago is much use to us in a game like that - obviously a shame that Havard and Cooper weren't available but even Harvie Hill may have been a better option.
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| Weirdly, I'm ok with that loss, as others have said. Matt Peet nailed it in his Wigan TV interview, stating they'll take a lot of confidence from today. We were more than comfortable when it was set for set, instead of the lop sided penalty count we saw in the first half.
No issues with the cards, our discipline was poor throughout. I'm very confident this team will deal with Saints later this season. It was just their day today, we were well in the game despite being down to 12 for over half an hour.
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| I get that the new rules are there to protect players, but if that's a red, you basically run into someone's shoulder, and it's the defenders fault and they're sent off, then it's just ridiculous.
The refs are poor in general, but they've got their hands tied now if they're forced into making these pathetic calls. You don't even need intent or malice, just sheer bad luck is enough to get you sent off and banned.
A full season of poor referring and laughable decisions deciding games is going to annoy a lot of fans.
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| Quote ="LewCharnock"Weirdly, I'm ok with that loss, as others have said. Matt Peet nailed it in his Wigan TV interview, stating they'll take a lot of confidence from today. We were more than comfortable when it was set for set, instead of the lop sided penalty count we saw in the first half.
No issues with the cards, our discipline was poor throughout. I'm very confident this team will deal with Saints later this season. It was just their day today, we were well in the game despite being down to 12 for over half an hour.'"
The lack of creativity is a worry. We. Made one chance today. Given the new tackling rules, our pivots have got to take the line on especially when the opposing forwards are fatigued. Penalties a plenty will be forthcoming. Defence today 9/10, attack 2/10.
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| So according to some absolute simpleton on redvee Luke Thompson got “absolutely bitched”
Personally I thought he had a great game. He carried Wigans pack by himself but then I wouldn’t expect anyone on redvee to know anything about rugby league
Was a great game and could have gone either way. I don’t think Wigan will be too bothered about losing that as they weren’t at their best overall
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| Quote ="Zig"The lack of creativity is a worry. We. Made one chance today. Given the new tackling rules, our pivots have got to take the line on especially when the opposing forwards are fatigued. Penalties a plenty will be forthcoming. Defence today 9/10, attack 2/10.'"
Conditions played a part but our attack looked very flat to me. But it wouldn't say its a worry - it can easily be fixed. Missing four front rowers against Leigh is a little worrying though.
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| Quote ="MadDogg"Conditions played a part but our attack looked very flat to me. But it wouldn't say its a worry - it can easily be fixed. Missing four front rowers against Leigh is a little worrying though.'"
I predict Liam Moore to ref the game, & make sure you are happy & smiling again.
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| Watching the game back, the Lees shot on Thompson looked really bad, and I expect he'll be sitting down for a while. And again, on a second look, no complaints about Byrne either. I think criticism of our halves is a bit harsh; they never had a platform provided by our pack. As posters have said, it's a good job we have plenty of props, because we are going to need them.
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| Quote ="moto748"Watching the game back, the Lees shot on Thompson looked really bad, and I expect he'll be sitting down for a while. And again, on a second look, no complaints about Byrne either. I think criticism of our halves is a bit harsh; they never had a platform provided by our pack. As posters have said, it's a good job we have plenty of props, because we are going to need them.'"
Which Lees one? Not the one right before the Dupree one? Just watched it and literally nothing in it.
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| Quote ="Pieman"but if its a penalty it has to be a card, also the hit on thompson before dupree was worse than Byrnes on percy but wasnt even looked at as he got up'"
Are you mad? It was a brilliant hit by Lees. Not a chance that’s even looked at.
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| Quote ="Trainman"That was Lees and yes, I’d expect a ban. Had it been picked up by the VR Lees would have been carded IMO. I think all 3 of Byrne, Dupree and Lees will get 1-2 matches.'"
For which tackle?
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| The tackle before the Dupree yellow was head on head. Will depend what mood the MRP are in but wouldn't shock me if he was banned for a couple of games
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| Quote ="bazdev"The tackle before the Dupree yellow was head on head. Will depend what mood the MRP are in but wouldn't shock me if he was banned for a couple of games'"
I’ve just watched it there’s literally no evidence of head contact at all. There was body contact which bumped Thompson off and the heads are close but on the replay they show, there’s no definitive contact.
Thats not to say that another angle doesn’t show it. But on what SKY showed, Lees has no case to answer.
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| Best team won. Our discipline was poor and too many errors.
Not seen the Byrne incident again but at the time I thought the tackle was fine.
I thought that O’Neil had a good game but I couldn’t understand why Leeming played so few minutes.
I’m mystified why we pick a forward on the bench then he doesn’t get any game time. If I was Nsemba I’d be livid. I wouldn’t give a shiny shoite about other players or how finely balanced the game was. If I’m on the bench I’d expect no I’d demand minutes on the pitch. Time to step up Junior.
Our weaknesses so far this season is a backrow that is almost non existent from an attacking point of view and we are particularly weak in defending high balls in our defensive corners.
Our passing doesn’t have that crispness from last year but hopefully will improve over the next few months.
I’m normally distraught after a loss to Saints but today I’m quite calm about it.
Havard, Walters and Cooper will add a lot of size and power when they return which we will need to really take on the Saints pack. I thought that Thompson did ok today but he was taking on the Saints pack almost alone at times.
I want us to beat Cas and Saints to beat Wire in the CC then be drawn together in the SF. Let’s see how that one goes.
Field was poor despite his early tackle on Dodds to avoid a first half try for Saints. Not sure what’s up with him but attacking wise he’s almost anonymous at the moment and his handling today was particularly poor.
Unsure on Saints possession percentage but it must have been huge particularly in the first half. The current Saints are anything but entertainers and if we can cut out the errors and poor discipline I’m pretty confident that we turn the tables next time when we meet.
A disappointing performance but I expect the players and coaching team will turn it around.
I anticipate Byrne and Dupree to miss the Leyth game which will probably lead to another defeat but when we have our long term injured players back i still think that we will be competing for all the silverware.
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"I’ve just watched it there’s literally no head contact at all.'"
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| ‘It’s direct contact with the head, there are no mitigating factors. It’s a red card.’
Changes the game at that point.
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"Which Lees one? Not the one right before the Dupree one? Just watched it and literally nothing in it.'"
Aye, nowt in it.
Felt it was a weird game today. I thought we looked comfortable for most of the day and the game was there for the taking but you can’t give so many penalties away and make so many errors and expect to come through. I respect Saints massively and always felt beating them to any trophy this season will be a challenge (as it will be the other way) but I probably feel more confident of doing that after today. We’ve got loads of improvement in us.
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