As if by magic.....

so 9 months, like any employment really as its an incapacity to fulfill your role. So a broken leg 3-4 months he would be protected and doing no work for full pay and might never be as good as he was but thats fine as he has a contract. A club couldnt just sack him due to him being out for 3-4 months so why should they be able to walk? they shouldnt. If they want to leave they should buy out their contract or lump it.

I actually commented on that before.. i'm disgusted by it.

Not good timing... Should have cancelled for sure.

And there i am sticking up for my club then they play a trump card like that. A multi million pound sports team make a decision like that. Idiots. Well done Warriors for making everybody hate us even more when what we need more than anything at the moment is across the board solidarity from all clubs.

I think i can speak on behalf of most Warriors fans here by saying to opposing fans that this decision is not one we agree on so please don't bag us for a decision the club has made.

Nothing better than calling someone a halfwhit because they have a different opinion to yourself.

ATEOTD Cas have killed the British game imo. Don't be surprised at a lack of sympathy from people who want to see the game progress, want to see players getting more money and want to see money being spent.

Cas winning a legal battle brings zero long term benefits. It just maintains the sports slow decline into oblivion. If they lose however the only realistic option is to pay players more so that they don't leave. Only way that can happen is via the abolition of the cap.... that makes it a hell of a lot more interesting and possibly a retun to keeping players are the club as well as top signings as well.

Call me a halfwit though....

Quote ="sergeant pepper"Nothing better than calling someone a halfwhit because they have a different opinion to yourself. ATEOTD Cas have killed the British game imo. Don't be surprised at a lack of sympathy from people who want to see the game progress, want to see players getting more money and want to see money being spent. Cas winning a legal battle brings zero long term benefits. It just maintains the sports slow decline into oblivion. If they lose however the only realistic option is to pay players more so that they don't leave. Only way that can happen is via the abolition of the cap.... that makes it a hell of a lot more interesting and possibly a retun to keeping players are the club as well as top signings as well. Call me a halfwit though....'" And how do you propose to pay there players more money, when they are losing money from all angles? How can the game afford to raise the salary cap? Look at these, from two of our "better run" clubs" https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/comp ... ng-history https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/comp ... ng-history Just click on the annual returns

Quote ="sergeant pepper"Nothing better than calling someone a halfwhit because they have a different opinion to yourself. ATEOTD Cas have killed the British game imo. Don't be surprised at a lack of sympathy from people who want to see the game progress, want to see players getting more money and want to see money being spent. Cas winning a legal battle brings zero long term benefits. It just maintains the sports slow decline into oblivion. If they lose however the only realistic option is to pay players more so that they don't leave. Only way that can happen is via the abolition of the cap.... that makes it a hell of a lot more interesting and possibly a retun to keeping players are the club as well as top signings as well. Call me a halfwit though....'" And how do you propose to pay there players more money, when they are losing money from all angles? How can the game afford to raise the salary cap? Look at these, from two of our "better run" clubs" https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/comp ... ng-history https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/comp ... ng-history Just click on the annual returns

Quote ="Rogues Gallery"And how do you propose to pay there players more money, when they are losing money from all angles? How can the game afford to raise the salary cap? Look at these, from two of our "better run" clubs" https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/comp ... ng-history https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/comp ... ng-history Just click on the annual returns'" 3rd party sponsorship would be one option. Rich businesses/businessmen that can't or don't want to run a club, but want to be around the sport. Other stuff like like free cars via sponsorship deals with local dealers. That's just two ideas after 2 mins of thinking. What do you suggest? I think it's quite obvious we that we seem to be in a period of mass player migration to the NRL. We can pretend that they've gone for a "challenge' when we know it's mostly for the cash. The NRL is the top comp, but it was 10/15 years as well and we didn't see this level of movement. What's changed apart from the £s on offer?

Quote ="Rogues Gallery"And how do you propose to pay there players more money, when they are losing money from all angles? How can the game afford to raise the salary cap? Look at these, from two of our "better run" clubs" https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/comp ... ng-history https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/comp ... ng-history Just click on the annual returns'" 3rd party sponsorship would be one option. Rich businesses/businessmen that can't or don't want to run a club, but want to be around the sport. Other stuff like like free cars via sponsorship deals with local dealers. That's just two ideas after 2 mins of thinking. What do you suggest? I think it's quite obvious we that we seem to be in a period of mass player migration to the NRL. We can pretend that they've gone for a "challenge' when we know it's mostly for the cash. The NRL is the top comp, but it was 10/15 years as well and we didn't see this level of movement. What's changed apart from the £s on offer?

We've 'killed the British game' by attempting to hold onto the record-breaking try scorer and keep him in the game? By not accepting a broken contract? Don't be a silly bugger. Don't see any other Cas player complaining.

Yep - you are a halfwit.

If you cared about keeping him in the game you'd have sold him to Wire. He'd then still be in the game as you put it and getting paid his worth.

Let's not beat around the bush, he's coming off a record breaking season and that's pushed his value up above and beyond his current deal. If you wanted to keep him then match the offer Wire gave on his wages. If you couldn't do that then sell him.

You wanted your cake and you wanted to eat it as well. Is it any wonder he ran off to RU? I'd kind of say he pushed by Cas trying looking out for no one but thier own self interests. Don't make out it's a noble cause for the good of the game as it's a situation created from your own greed.

Maybe instead follow what the champs do and let guys go with the clubs blessing. If we cant match offers or opportunities then we let them go. Makes sense for the club AND player whilst also avoiding nasty situations like this.

Quote ="Rogues Gallery"And how do you propose to pay there players more money, when they are losing money from all angles? How can the game afford to raise the salary cap? Look at these, from two of our "better run" clubs" https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/comp ... ng-history https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/comp ... ng-history Just click on the annual returns'" We're doomed!

Quote ="Rogues Gallery"And how do you propose to pay there players more money, when they are losing money from all angles? How can the game afford to raise the salary cap? Look at these, from two of our "better run" clubs" https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/comp ... ng-history https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/comp ... ng-history Just click on the annual returns'" We're doomed!

Quote ="Rogues Gallery"And how do you propose to pay there players more money, when they are losing money from all angles? How can the game afford to raise the salary cap? Look at these, from two of our "better run" clubs" https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/comp ... ng-history https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/comp ... ng-history Just click on the annual returns'" Some reality at last. Most people who scream raise the cap don't realise that money doesn't just appear out of thin air. You can raise the cap as much as you want. Salaries won't go up if clubs do not receive any extra revenue. Until the game creates more revenue streams salaries will stay the same.

Quote ="Rogues Gallery"And how do you propose to pay there players more money, when they are losing money from all angles? How can the game afford to raise the salary cap? Look at these, from two of our "better run" clubs" https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/comp ... ng-history https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/comp ... ng-history Just click on the annual returns'" Some reality at last. Most people who scream raise the cap don't realise that money doesn't just appear out of thin air. You can raise the cap as much as you want. Salaries won't go up if clubs do not receive any extra revenue. Until the game creates more revenue streams salaries will stay the same.

You're the last person who should be throwing insults like that about given this embarrassment:

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To be fair, Solomona's agent has links (i.e. they own companies together) to Ian Lenegan, so he's swinging but not that wide.

FWIW I don't understand this animosity between the clubs.

A company completely unrelated to anything to do with Clarke's agency business. To claim Wigan RL has anything to do with Sale and Solomona is, like I said, embarrassing.

Sale have links to Salford, but I've yet to see Koukash implicated. I wonder why?

You haven't looked far enough then. There's a 100+ page on the Cas forum with many, many theories. It's just people looking for someone to blame.

One way to increase the benefit players can receive without the clubs having to spend money would be to allow external sponsorship, sponsored vehicles, player endorsements, etc but I suppose that upsets the "level playing field" argument that has completely engulfed the original aims of the salary cap.

Spot on.

It's great putting up annual returns, but that's a club 'going it alone'. Even if the club managed to secure 20 businesses at a £20k investment that's £400k in the bank.

Put that into perspective the company I work for pays about £80k a season for corporate football tickets at City, United and Liverpool. Whilst it's great hospitality you don't get access to players etc which I'm sure Wigan could arrange. Cars is another one where the players are getting to feel the love.

It's something that would be available to all clubs, but as with these things some clubs will be better than others at it. Such is life though

I could save them about 100 pages:

- Denny Solomona
- Andy Clarke
- Steve Diamond

Wow. Reading through this as a genuine neutral, and you've turned me. You ARE an absolute halfwit and an embarrassment to your club, and the sport.

Quote ="Rogues Gallery"And how do you propose to pay there players more money, when they are losing money from all angles? How can the game afford to raise the salary cap? Look at these, from two of our "better run" clubs" https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/comp ... ng-history https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/comp ... ng-history Just click on the annual returns'" How would the Leeds Rhinos figures stack up Rogues? I was informed that the Rhinos turn over more than both Wigan and Saints do put together

Quote ="Rogues Gallery"And how do you propose to pay there players more money, when they are losing money from all angles? How can the game afford to raise the salary cap? Look at these, from two of our "better run" clubs" https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/comp ... ng-history https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/comp ... ng-history Just click on the annual returns'" How would the Leeds Rhinos figures stack up Rogues? I was informed that the Rhinos turn over more than both Wigan and Saints do put together

I cant believe you really think that....they dont want their cake and eat it they want their player they are paying to play, simple. Solomona scored lots of tries last year but he didnt do it all on his own think he will get found out very quickly and will love it if cas are successful is taking all his cash and then he falls flat on his face.

https://www.insidermedia.com/insider/no ... ale-sharks Try some proper losses, nearly all pro sport depends on its owners.

https://www.insidermedia.com/insider/no ... ale-sharks Try some proper losses, nearly all pro sport depends on its owners.

I believe the hostility dates back to season 2006 when we were relegated, and Wigan blatantly fiddled the salary cap figure to stay up.