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| Quote ="The Magic Rat"How can you describe McGuires swinging arm as cheating? It was foul play for which he may or may not get a ban. In the same way as Lima trying to injure a players knee with a illegal tackle is foul play.
Breaking the cap to avoid relegation is cheating'"
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1 act dishonestly or unfairly in order to gain an advantage. Ø deprive of something by deceitful or unfair means.
A shot to the head is definately cheating..... I would say thats it's "Unfair" at least....
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| Quote ="Wigan Peer"cheat
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1 act dishonestly or unfairly in order to gain an advantage. Ø deprive of something by deceitful or unfair means.
A shot to the head is definately cheating..... I would say thats it's "Unfair" at least....'"
Well quoted, Mcguire stayed on the field and scored an importnat try if I am not mistaken, cheating in anyones book.
Maybe it's the Gary Hetherington book of definitions circulating in Leeds that is confusing them!!
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| Quote ="The Magic Rat"How can you describe McGuires swinging arm as cheating? It was foul play for which he may or may not get a ban. In the same way as Lima trying to injure a players knee with a illegal tackle is foul play.
Breaking the cap to avoid relegation is cheating'"
I suppose you think Ryan Bailey is a clean player in Leeds, dear me!!
McGuire stiff armed a player, stayed on the pitch and scored an important try.
Mcllorum got sent off + a three game ban for a 'similar' incident.
No surprise Mr Thaler was refereeing on Friday and we all know the 'boo boo' (Stevo's words) he made in the CC semi.
I think your tryng to excuse foul play on the pitch as 'not' cheating...
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| Nobody is excusing what McGuire did it was a poor challenge just adding a little context to the situation.
It wasn't cheating in any sense.
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| Quote ="rhinos21"Nobody is excusing what McGuire did it was a poor challenge just adding a little context to the situation.
It wasn't cheating in any sense.'"
Surely, if you are penalized by the official, you have transgressed the rules... therefore you are cheating?
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| Quote ="Wigan Peer"Surely, if you are penalized by the official, you have transgressed the rules... therefore you are cheating?'"
Looking at it in black and white terms then yes you can however there needs to be an element of common sense in sport.
If McGuire gets banned then fair enough if not the same.
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| Quote ="rhinos21"Looking at it in black and white terms then yes you can however there needs to be an element of common sense in sport.
If McGuire gets banned then fair enough if not the same.'"
Rules are normally written in black and white, or is it different for Leeds?... I'm trying to understand what you are trying to say...
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| Quote ="Wigan Peer"Rules are normally written in black and white, or is it different for Leeds?... I'm trying to understand what you are trying to say...'"
They are however they are interpreted is why context is required. By your logic every player in super league is a cheat.
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| Ie anybody who can't see the difference between the mcillurom and McGuire challenges doesn't understand the game as peacock explained to Tomkins yesterday.
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| Quote ="rhinos21"Ie anybody who can't see the difference between the mcillurom and McGuire challenges doesn't understand the game as peacock explained to Tomkins yesterday.'"
Leeds gibberish , stop skirting around the issue. Mcguire is as guilty as puppy sitting next to a pile of poo. He has cheated, foul play, transgressed the rules.
Which ever way you try to dress it up he cheated, the only difference in both tackles is that Anderson had the ball, both players in possession (Or not in Laffranchis case) got a stiff arm around the chops. Mcllorum got three games and 'sent off', if Mcguire doesn't get a least two games then the RFL will lose a lot of credability. He stayed on and scored a try, with Mr Thaler in charge...again!!!
It must be a Leeds thing, McDermott even tried to back McGuire up at the Club Call today "he is not that sort of player..he does'nt go on the field to do that sort of thing...the bloke slipped" do me a favour, McGuire is constantly niggling opposition then stands out the back as it erupts.
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| Lose credibility? The RFL don't have any left.
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| Quote ="yickpie24"Leeds gibberish
, stop skirting around the issue. Mcguire is as guilty as puppy sitting next to a pile of poo. He has cheated, foul play, transgressed the rules.
Which ever way you try to dress it up he cheated, the only difference in both tackles is that Anderson had the ball, both players in possession (Or not in Laffranchis case) got a stiff arm around the chops. Mcllorum got three games and 'sent off', if Mcguire doesn't get a least two games then the RFL will lose a lot of credability. He stayed on and scored a try, with Mr Thaler in charge...again!!!
It must be a Leeds thing, McDermott even tried to back McGuire up at the Club Call today "he is not that sort of player..he does'nt go on the field to do that sort of thing...the bloke slipped" do me a favour, McGuire is constantly niggling opposition then stands out the back as it erupts.'"
No jibberish, he was just defending his player. Do you complain when wane does that or is that different. You seem unable to distinguish between incidents.
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| Quote ="rhinos21"They are however they are interpreted is why context is required. By your logic every player in super league is a cheat.'"
No only Leeds ones.
As Brian Clough said to the Leeds United team you won nothing fair.
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| Quote ="tank123"No only Leeds ones.
As Brian Clough said to the Leeds United team you won nothing fair.'"
Pathetic
The same Leeds united team who were cheated out of 1975 European cup. Clough said plenty but most of it
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| Quote ="rhinos21"Pathetic
The same Leeds united team who were cheated out of 1975 European cup. Clough said plenty but most of it rubbish'"
Leeds got Cheated out of something well i never.
Think the RFL might get you an inquiry on that and get you a rematch with Thaler reffing.
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| Quote ="tank123"Leeds got Cheated out of something well i never.
Think the RFL might get you an inquiry on that and get you a rematch with Thaler reffing.'"
First of all you made a childish comment, then you bring another sport into for some reason which has no relevance.
Leeds rhinos are no worse than any other team on the pitch. You could talk about off the pitch cheating but that probably doesn't count does it.
On Leeds united its disrespectful to categorise one of the best English football sides of all time as cheats. If you educate yourself you will understand that but I don't expect you will be able to.
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| Quote ="rhinos21"They are however they are interpreted is why context is required. By your logic every player in super league is a cheat.'"
I would think that every player in RL will cheat given the opportunity, don't you? And by "every" i include Wigan and Leeds players, before you pull me up on that one.
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| Quote ="rhinos21"First of all you made a childish comment, then you bring another sport into for some reason which has no relevance.
Leeds rhinos are no worse than any other team on the pitch. You could talk about off the pitch cheating but that probably doesn't count does it.
On Leeds united its disrespectful to categorise one of the best English football sides of all time as cheats. If you educate yourself you will understand that but I don't expect you will be able to.'"
OHHHH come on get a sense of humor FFS.
Though your comment re Leeds been one of the best British sides of all time is rather funny.
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| Quote ="tank123"OHHHH come on get a sense of humor FFS.
Though your comment re Leeds been one of the best British sides of all time is rather funny.'"
If you weren't so blinkered you would see it isn't funny.
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| Quote ="Wigan Peer"I would think that every player in RL will cheat given the opportunity, don't you? And by "every" i include Wigan and Leeds players, before you pull me up on that one.'"
Well I disagree mistimed challenge doesn't make you a cheat in my opinion.
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| Quote ="rhinos21"Well I disagree mistimed challenge doesn't make you a cheat in my opinion.'"
But a mistimed swinging arm might be...
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| Quote ="Wigan Peer"But a mistimed swinging arm might be...'"
Fair enough and if he gets banned then he deserves to be banned.
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| Quote ="rhinos21"Well I disagree mistimed challenge doesn't make you a cheat in my opinion.'"
Bad challenges happen in sports issue most fans have is with the referee and the RFL disciplinary panel as 1 week its a ban the next week its not. Mcilorum got sent off by the Video ref telling the ref what had happened. Someone on another forum who is on here as well listened in on it via maybe dubious methods. Whilst this weekend it just got put on report.
When this happens you got to question what is going on. It can not carry on 1 rule this week another the next as it its atm in SL.
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| Quote ="tank123"Bad challenges happen in sports issue most fans have is with the referee and the RFL disciplinary panel as 1 week its a ban the next week its not. Mcilorum got sent off by the Video ref telling the ref what had happened. Someone on another forum who is on here as well listened in on it via maybe dubious methods. Whilst this weekend it just got put on report.
When this happens you got to question what is going on. It can not carry on 1 rule this week another the next as it its atm in SL.'"
I don't know anything about the mcillurom ban and conspiracies.
Could say the same about Paul wood in the cup final and kylie last week one got a ban one didnt
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| For the record we don't what will happen with McGuire yet.
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