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| First things first, i want to put on record that i don't agree with clubs charging away fans more money than home fans for an equivalent view, and before making my mind up one way or the other on whether i think hull should change their policy, i do have one question. is this the pricing policy for the whole season, or just a couple of games.
one more thing, just to play devils advocate, how many huddersfield fans were given free tickets for the wigan game, i know quite a few wigan fans got free tickets... is that fair?
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| Quote ="kpw"First things first, i want to put on record that i don't agree with clubs charging away fans more money than home fans for an equivalent view, and before making my mind up one way or the other on whether i think hull should change their policy, i do have one question. is this the pricing policy for the whole season, or just a couple of games.
one more thing, just to play devils advocate, how many huddersfield fans were given free tickets for the wigan game, i know quite a few wigan fans got free tickets... is that fair?'"
The 2 aren't even comparible
Giving away free tickets to home fans to boost attendance has been done since the game was created (probably). Charging away of fans more to watch the same game thn home fans is downright outrageous
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| Quote ="kpw"First things first, i want to put on record that i don't agree with clubs charging away fans more money than home fans for an equivalent view, and before making my mind up one way or the other on whether i think hull should change their policy, i do have one question. is this the pricing policy for the whole season, or just a couple of games.
one more thing, just to play devils advocate, how many huddersfield fans were given free tickets for the wigan game, i know quite a few wigan fans got free tickets... is that fair?'"
Depends how many Huddersfield fans are good friends with Wigan season ticket holders? I know a few huddersfield fans who got their ticket off a Wigan season ticket holder because they were sat in front of me. Those free tickets are just one of the benefits of being a season ticket holder, part of the package and completely irrellevant to this topic, unless you want to include every other benefit season ticket holders get as well?
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| Quote ="Scouse Pie2"Did that yesterday. Awaiting a responce from FC.'"
Warrington fans got a response that repeated the lie that the prices hadn't been increased for away fans from the prices last season.
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| Quote ="[Gareth"The 2 aren't even comparible
Giving away free tickets to home fans to boost attendance has been done since the game was created (probably). Charging away of fans more to watch the same game thn home fans is downright outrageous'"
whichever way you look at it, away fans are paying more, either by being charged more, or by home fans being given discounts/freebies.
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| Quote ="FIOS"Depends how many Huddersfield fans are good friends with Wigan season ticket holders? I know a few huddersfield fans who got their ticket off a Wigan season ticket holder because they were sat in front of me. Those free tickets are just one of the benefits of being a season ticket holder, part of the package and completely irrellevant to this topic, unless you want to include every other benefit season ticket holders get as well?'"
i fail to see how season ticket holders benefit from free tickets for a game when they already have a ticket for the game... the people who benefit most from freebies are non season ticket holders.
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| Let me get this straight, You are trying to justify Hull charging away fans upto £6 more for what is effectively the same ticket and charging more for the same food and drink for every game this season by comparing it to Wigan offering season ticket holders the opportunity to take one friend to one match for free. An obvious marketing ploy to get more of those people to return as a fully paying customer in the future. A ploy which Some Hudds fans also got in on?
I'd also like to point out that in the past when Wigan have offered reduced ticket prices for things like the big one, this has also been applicable to away fans. The Hudds game last year was the big one 3, in which 1,500 tickets in each stand (including the away end) where offered at a price of £10, and i'm pretty much sure that all the Hudds fans that came that day will have taken advantage of that offer.
I really don't see what point you are trying to make. Every club from time to time offers free tickets to either schools... younger fans... or who ever they want. That is completely different to a club blatantly charging away fans of every club more than home fans.
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| Quote ="Robbo"Let me get this straight, You are trying to justify Hull charging away fans upto £6 more for what is effectively the same ticket and charging more for the same food and drink for every game this season by comparing it to Wigan offering season ticket holders the opportunity to take one friend to one match for free. An obvious marketing ploy to get more of those people to return as a fully paying customer in the future. A ploy which Some Hudds fans also got in on?
I'd also like to point out that in the past when Wigan have offered reduced ticket prices for things like the big one, this has also been applicable to away fans. The Hudds game last year was the big one 3, in which 1,500 tickets in each stand (including the away end) where offered at a price of £10, and i'm pretty much sure that all the Hudds fans that came that day will have taken advantage of that offer.
I really don't see what point you are trying to make. Every club from time to time offers free tickets to either schools... younger fans... or who ever they want. That is completely different to a club blatantly charging away fans of every club more than home fans.'"
if you read my first question, i asked if this was a policy from hull for the whole season or a few games... that hasn't been answered yet, so my posts are based on not having that information.
although wigan fans were offered a free ticket for only one game, the away fans were not given the same offer. that is the same as hull are doing, treating home fans and away fans differently, giving preferential treatment to their home fans.
the point i'm making is that whether it be with one off offers (several of them throughout a season) or ticket prices, clubs will always put their own fans first. sure, with the big one games, away fans have been given the same discounts, but that didn't happen the first season. and although wigan fans only got a free ticket for one game, huddersfield fans only came to our ground once so why not give them the same offer?
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| Even as a Wire fan i could understand if Wigan charged those prices and they could probably justify it, most teams look forward to playing Wigan either out of jealously or hatred even just a mild dislike or they respect them for their rich heritage, plenty of reasons Wigan could justify having big ticket prices but Hull? All Hull have is a good stadium and up until recently a load of gobsh*te fans. Why anyone other than KR would look forward to going to watch Hull? like they are the team everyone else looks forward to seeing, nah .
They moan people don't travel, well duh are you surprised, really?
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| Quote ="Robbo"I'd also like to point out that in the past when Wigan have offered reduced ticket prices for things like the big one, this has also been applicable to away fans. The Hudds game last year was the big one 3, in which 1,500 tickets in each stand (including the away end) where offered at a price of £10, and i'm pretty much sure that all the Hudds fans that came that day will have taken advantage of that offer.
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The same was true for The Big One2 with Warrington where the away fans' stand had the same first 1,500 tickets at £10 as it did for the home ones.
Hull FC the true home of rip-off Britain.
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| Quote ="kpw"i fail to see how season ticket holders benefit from free tickets for a game when they already have a ticket for the game... the people who benefit most from freebies are non season ticket holders.'"
Because they get to bring a friend along to the game who might not have been before who then might enjoy it and pay to come to more games, it's called a marketing ploy, to bring more through the gates you've gotta give a little. An idea some other clubs should maybe take note of instead of driving other fans away, like Hull FC seem to be doing.
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www.hullfc.com/page.aspx?p=996
KPW I think that will Answer your question.
also, it also looks like Hull fans who turn up and pay on the day wont be charged the extra £2 as this only seems applicable to away fans.
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KPW I think that will Answer your question.
also, it also looks like Hull fans who turn up and pay on the day wont be charged the extra £2 as this only seems applicable to away fans.
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| Wigan being criticised by Hull fans for helping make a game cheaper and at the same time defending ripping people off, wow.
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| i just dont see the logic in putting away fans off coming to your gound? for many fans hull is one the futhest away trip they will make, its often a hell of a drag on a friday on the M62 and to then be charged more than you should???? they should be encouraging fans not discouraging!!!!
business logic like this leads to rugby clubs going bust. disgrace.
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| Quote ="Robbo"www.hullfc.com/page.aspx?p=996
KPW I think that will Answer your question.
also, it also looks like Hull fans who turn up and pay on the day wont be charged the extra £2 as this only seems applicable to away fans.'"
thanks for the link.
firstly, the £2 extra for away fans on the day is not right, how they can justify that i don't know.
secondly, as the cheaper tickets isn't just an early season promotion to increase numbers through the turnstyles, i can't see how they can justify a £4 difference in price. i'm not sure that anything can be done about this though, given that there is nothing to stop away fans buying tickets for the other end of the ground, and as i've said in my previous posts, clubs will always try to favour their own fans whether it be through discounts, free tickets or 'season ticket benefits'.
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| Quote ="FIOS"Because they get to bring a friend along to the game who might not have been before who then might enjoy it and pay to come to more games, it's called a marketing ploy, to bring more through the gates you've gotta give a little. An idea some other clubs should maybe take note of instead of driving other fans away, like Hull FC seem to be doing.'"
as i say, i don't see how season ticket holders benefit from that, it's the non season ticket holders who get the free ticket, and if they pay for tickets in the future, it's the club that benefits. i'd quite happily take a £5 or £10 cut in price of my season ticket and not be eligible for a free ticket for someone else.
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| Quote ="kpw" given that there is nothing to stop away fans buying tickets for the other end of the ground, '"
This is a good point but it will be interesting to see what happens when inevitably a group of away fans buy the cheaper tickets and end up in the middle of all the hull fans.
I'm certainly not saying Hull fans and away fans wont be able to sit together and behave... but it only takes one idiot.......
Fans on here say they'd welcome it... but would stewards be just as accepting? I cant see it personally.
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| Roll up to the south stand with your norweb top on and see what happens, sorry sir you're at the wrong turnstile.
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| Quote ="kpw"as i say, i don't see how season ticket holders benefit from that, it's the non season ticket holders who get the free ticket, and if they pay for tickets in the future, it's the club that benefits. i'd quite happily take a £5 or £10 cut in price of my season ticket and not be eligible for a free ticket for someone else.'"
You're just going completely off topic about something else because you know Hull FC are in the wrong and what both Wigan and Warrington fans are saying on this thread is right.
Either that or youre trying to justify Hull FCs rip off prices with the fact that Wigan gave away a few free tickets to the super league opener. Which would be stupid and yet again completely irrellevant.
Which one is it?
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| Quote ="FIOS"You're just going completely off topic about something else because you know Hull FC are in the wrong and what both Wigan and Warrington fans are saying on this thread is right.
Either that or youre trying to justify Hull FCs rip off prices with the fact that Wigan gave away a few free tickets to the super league opener. Which would be stupid and yet again completely irrellevant.
Which one is it?'"
I'm not going off topic at all, i've said i don't think it's right for a club to offer better deals to home fans than away fans, but also pointed out that hull are not the only club doing this. That's hardly going off topic. Also, how is it irrelevant that home fans at the Huddersfield game paid £20 less than huddersfield fans, isn't that what the topic is about, that clubs should be charging the same ticket price whether you are a home fan or an away fan?
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| Quote ="kpw"I'm not going off topic at all, i've said i don't think it's right for a club to offer better deals to home fans than away fans, but also pointed out that hull are not the only club doing this. That's hardly going off topic. Also, how is it irrelevant that home fans at the Huddersfield game paid £20 less than huddersfield fans, isn't that what the topic is about, that clubs should be charging the same ticket price whether you are a home fan or an away fan?'"
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| Quote ="kpw"I'm not going off topic at all, i've said i don't think it's right for a club to offer better deals to home fans than away fans, but also pointed out that hull are not the only club doing this. That's hardly going off topic. Also, how is it irrelevant that home fans at the Huddersfield game paid £20 less than huddersfield fans, isn't that what the topic is about, that clubs should be charging the same ticket price whether you are a home fan or an away fan?'"
You really are digging yourself deeper.
By your warped logic, clubs also shouldn't be able to sell season tickets (I believe you call them passes for some reason), because they would be paying less per game than away supporters.
Just face it, your club has completely cocked this up. Given that Hull is halfway to Holland and it's not the most friendly place in the world, you should be setting prices to encourage away supporters to attend, not the opposite.
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| Quote ="loobyfromorrell"You really are digging yourself deeper.
By your warped logic, clubs also shouldn't be able to sell season tickets (I believe you call them passes for some reason), because they would be paying less per game than away supporters.
Just face it, your club has completely cocked this up. Given that Hull is halfway to Holland and it's not the most friendly place in the world, you should be setting prices to encourage away supporters to attend, not the opposite.'"
My club? i think you've got that a bit wrong, i'm a proud Wiganer, i've been a season ticket holder for 18 years.
And you talk about my 'warped logic' when you are the one comparing the discounted cost of a season ticket (when compared to buying 13 match tickets) to a season ticket holder getting a free ticket to a game... in one of those instances, the season ticket holder benefits, in another instance, a non season ticket holder benefits, can you figure out which is which? They are two different things.
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| Got my response:
Quote Thank you for your email regarding the ticketing pricing for away supporters at the KC Stadium.
The pricing for the North Stand, where away supporters sit, has been included in a newly reviewed pricing structure which has been put in place by the new management at the club. The move to offer seats for £23 as advance purchase and £25 on the gate was to bring the pricing in line with the other areas of the ground, including the popular West and East Stands.
The only areas of the ground that do not follow this pricing structure are the new family area of the West Stand and the South Stand, where special promotional prices have been set to reward Hull FC supporters for their loyalty in previous seasons.
The new look management at the club promised that an area of the ground would be reduced on match days for home supporters, which is why this area has been offered to fans.
The club are in no way discouraging away supporters from travelling to the KC Stadium this year and will continue to provide one of the best facilities for away fans in 2012, who will also be accompanied by dedicated supporter liaison officers from the club to ensure their match day experience in Hull is a positive one.
However, we had to make the justified business decision to review all our prices for the new season and bring them in line with the rest of the areas in the ground, whilst still finding a way to promote a special offer to our committed supporters despite the limitations of our user agreement with the Stadium Management Company.
I hope this goes someway to answering your email.'"
The main thing I get from that is that they believe a view along the touchline is comparable to a view behind the posts, which is just ludicrous.
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| Quote ="Scouse Pie2"Got my response:'"
now thats logic...........
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