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| Benji Marshall and Lockyer where asked aswell aint to sure that they are playing though. Sam is though.
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| Quote ="PIE&PROUD"I was one of the people that didn't think Lenagan could do wrong up until this. One week saying that Sam cant speak to the unionites the next week he could be turning out at twickers........... If Lenagan lets this happen, in my opinion, he needs his head well and truely testing. I hope the RFL step in to stop it but there is more chance of platting fog than that happening'"
Perhaps Lenegan already knows that barring any drastic changes in form Sam is likely to switch to union after 3 years.
Thanks to the 5 year deal that means even though Sam can talk to clubs after 3 years he's still contracted to Wigan and therefore Wigan will be owed compensation. A player like Sam could provide Wigan with a hefty sum of money, so maybe he's willing to let Sam play a game of union in the hope that he impresses and it bumps up his value a little more.
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| Quote ="Mr.No.It.All"Benji Marshall and Lockyer where asked aswell aint to sure that they are playing though. Sam is though.'"
Doesnt the NRL have a strict rule about not allowing players to play in a competitive rival sport. Pretty sure the NRL slammed the door on Benji a few years ago when he was offered to $1m play Union in Japan.
Cant see them allowing him to play for the Barbarians.
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| Quote ="kobashi"Doesnt the NRL have a strict rule about not allowing players to play in a competitive rival sport. Pretty sure the NRL slammed the door on Benji a few years ago when he was offered to $1m play Union in Japan.
Cant see them allowing him to play for the Barbarians.'"
Don't think they are playing, the reasons why I don't no. Just know as they got asked.
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| Quote ="Cherry.Pie"Perhaps Lenegan already knows that barring any drastic changes in form Sam is likely to switch to union after 3 years.
Thanks to the 5 year deal that means even though Sam can talk to clubs after 3 years he's still contracted to Wigan and therefore Wigan will be owed compensation. A player like Sam could provide Wigan with a hefty sum of money, so maybe he's willing to let Sam play a game of union in the hope that he impresses and it bumps up his value a little more.'"
Well they should let him go now were not here to produce players for RU. Losing him now will be no different to losing him in 3 years
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| Quote ="RLFC2008"Well they should let him go now were not here to produce players for RU. =#FF0000Losing him now will be no different to losing him in 3 years'"
I'll have a pint of what you've had.
In that case we should have let Thomas Leuluai leave two years ago.
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| Quote ="LovesToSpooge"Is it the price Wigan have to pay for having Sam, probably the best players in the UK, pull on a Wigan shirt every week. He could have walked out on his Wigan contract to go and play RU, and earn the money and fame that wants, but he didn't.
It's not ideal, in fact is far from it. But if it's part of his new deal, that he could play in games such as this one to increase his media profile, meant Wigan could keep him, then so be it. I'd rather he plays in this game as a Wigan player than not be a Wigan player at all, which could have easily happened.'"
The price we pay for Sam to play for Wigan is £300,000 a year and that's paid pay us the fans, as a result we should have full commitment from him and IL for Wigan and this is a complete lack of that.
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| Word from Saracens is that they are delighted with the deal to link the club to Wigan. Sam Tomkins will get to train with his brother while the Union side groom him for his eventual switch. By the time Sam does cross codes he will have played a lot of Union.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"I'll have a pint of what you've had.
In that case we should have let Thomas Leuluai leave two years ago.'"
Cant compare that Leulai wants to play league with no intentions of going to a rival code and sam would be going to RU and during his 3 year contract wants to play ru games. So therefore i would of got rid but in saying all that i would love for sam to stay in RL for at least 4 more years til just after the ruwc2015 not to much to ask is it.
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| Our Chairman stated last week in his interview that sam has no interest in playing rugby union and was a little tempted by the NRL.
Time to prove that i think.
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| Quote ="Tricky Dicky"Our Chairman stated last week in his interview that sam has no interest in playing rugby union and was a little tempted by the NRL.
Time to prove that i think.'"
The communication between us and IL has been very weak in recent months, most big sports team deny incorrect rumours very quickly and give club statement on a regular basis concerning "hear say" or comments that have been made in the news papers. Wigan only ever announce things well beyond the point of every body already knowing the announcement.
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| Quote ="kobashi"Doesnt the NRL have a strict rule about not allowing players to play in a competitive rival sport. Pretty sure the NRL slammed the door on Benji a few years ago when he was offered to $1m play Union in Japan.
Cant see them allowing him to play for the Barbarians.'"
Didnt sonny bill have boxing matches before he turned his back on the bulldogs or was that after his move ?
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| Quote ="trigger"Didnt sonny bill have boxing matches before he turned his back on the bulldogs or was that after his move ?'"
Yes he did it was during the preseason of his last year in rugby league, his current contract with the Chiefs has a limited number of professional boxing bouts written in. If Sam does have a similar clause in his contract to play Union I will be pretty shocked.
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| Quote ="trigger"Didnt sonny bill have boxing matches before he turned his back on the bulldogs or was that after his move ?'"
dont think the NRL see boxing as a direct competitor mate. Even if the RFL Cannot stop sam playing they should release a press statement objecting to it.
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| Sam Tomkins had his chance to prove his worth last night and bottled it. He should spend the pre-season concentrating on how to catch a high ball under pressure as he will have a lot more of those to deal with next season.
I think the performance showed he is not NRL standard, so at least that can be put to bed now.
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| Quote ="mmcdonagh"Sam Tomkins had his chance to prove his worth last night and bottled it. He should spend the pre-season concentrating on how to catch a high ball under pressure as he will have a lot more of those to deal with next season.
I think the performance showed he is not NRL standard, so at least that can be put to bed now.'"
your judging him on one game. thats silly!
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| Tbh I hope he does this is something I've suggested in the past. Union only want our players for internationals and our players go mostly for that if we allow them to use our players then we break the cycle and keep our players happy plus they get paid to do that too so get a good proportion of the money they're after without our game losing the players.
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| Quote ="hula89"Tbh I hope he does this is something I've suggested in the past. Union only want our players for internationals and our players go mostly for that if we allow them to use our players then we break the cycle and keep our players happy plus they get paid to do that too so get a good proportion of the money they're after without our game losing the players.'"
Cmon keep it real please.
They will not just want players for International they need to get them used to playing union before putting them into an international side.
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| Quote ="mmcdonagh"Sam Tomkins had his chance to prove his worth last night and bottled it. He should spend the pre-season concentrating on how to catch a high ball under pressure as he will have a lot more of those to deal with next season.
I think the performance showed he is not NRL standard, so at least that can be put to bed now.'"
And what do you think of Sinfields "performance"
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| Just been on SSN, they're saying official announcement tomorrow.
Not at all happy, he should have his feet up now.
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| Quote ="apollosghost"Just been on SSN, they're saying official announcement tomorrow.
Not at all happy, he should have his feet up now.'"
He will play more union games over the next 3 years now.
his contract is a mockery!
if sam wants to play union then just go, dont do this few games a season BS!!
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| Quote ="kobashi"He will play more union games over the next 3 years now.
his contract is a mockery!
if sam wants to play union then just go, dont do this few games a season BS!!'"
I agree with you its a complete joke every interview with him always goes back to union. If he is serious about RL he could start by getting rid of that james grant management as long as he is with them they wont leave him alone but it looks like he just wants to go to rugby union with how hes going about things.
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| Dubai round for the IRB Sevens starts 2nd December.
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| Sam is taking to out of us to be honest and straight after he give him a new contract
Surely IL has some balls to say no to this, if he plays then we may aswell accept he will be mot be at wigan in 2013, contract or not
What happens if he plays and gets injured badly in a ruck after returning a ball? You know the aussies will be after him no doubt and ruck him over and over
All this does is promote rugby union
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| I find it a sign of arrogance from the kid myself. Why would he want to play in a "nothing" game of RU only weeks after he agrees a contract with a massive wage increase ([iwhich had to have the cap rules changed for it to happen![/i)??
He clearly wants the money and status that is in rugby union, and as others have said for 3 years he will milk Wigan for just short of £1mil, then swan off to RU on a mega bucks contract. What a joke.
Also, as a club I think Wigan are doing the dirty on the fans. It's okay saying it will bring publicity to the game (which is won't) or the club (which it won't) but lets just say Tomkins gets an injury that puts him out of action for 8 months. The club are risking their best player by allowing him to do this. Also, the RFL should have stopped it. They clearly value Tomkins in this code giving how the cap was changed for him, yet they are allowing him to play under another governing body for one game??!! What a joke, just emphasises that whilst rugby league may be the best game in the world, as a sport it is an utter farce.
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