Lets hope so.

1. Tomkins
2. Hall
3. Reed
4. Yeaman
5. Briscoe
6. Widdop
7. Lomax
8. Graham
9. Roby
10. Carvell
11. Westwood
12. Ellis
13. O'Loughlin
14. Brough
15. Burgess
16. Morley
17. Tomkins

Not has the pleasure of watching him yet bar some internet clips but I read plenty about him and he sounds like he is a cracking talent. I really hope he has chosen to play for England (seeing as he's English it makes sense) and that adds another quality option in to what is starting to resemble something like a good backline



After waiting for years and years it finally looks like our outside back options are really opening up.

Personally I think we should start looking toward the 2013 World Cup in this tournament, especially if there won't be a tour next season. Remember when the Kiwis brought a tour party of kids here the year before the last World Cup? They got stuffed 3-0 here but went on to win the WC and Four Nations

Aren't Sam Burgess and Gareth Ellis out of the 4 Nations?

Burgess is, don't know about Ellis.

Certainly is

Maybe I'm imagining it but I'm sure I read that he was going to have groin surgery.

Don't be getting carried away! Remember who the coach is

He ripped it up for Wests again last week so it can't be that urgent!

1. Vomkins
2. Jones-Bishop
3. Atkins
4. Yeaman
5. Briscoe
6. Widdop
7. Myler (we see more of him than the doubters, Brough a bit off at the mo)
8. Carvell
9. Roby
10. Graham
11. Westwood
12. Ellis
13. O'Loughlin
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14. Mossop
15. Morley (you need ONLY one of Moz or Peacock, i went for a biased Mozza)
16. Robinson (hooker)
17. Crabtree

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He's since said he's playing and Westwood should be back as well so the back row looks strong. I did read somebody on here the other night saying Lockers would be pulling out though which would be a blow.

Burgess is defo out.

1.Tomkins
2.BJB
3.Reed
4.Bridge
5.Briscoe
6.Widdop
7.Brough
8.Graham
9.Roby
10.Morley
11.Ellis
12.Westwood
13.O'Loughlin

14.Carvell
15.Mossop
16.Burgess (if fit) then J.Tomkins
17.Robinson

It's a wait-and-see situation I guess. Doesn't say what the actual injury to the groin is in that article, just that there's a problem with it. Can't be much more than a manageable strain considering he's been playing with it

Ellis playing would be a huge boost as in my opinion he's one of the top second rowers in the world. O'Loughlin could be the most underrated player going. On his day he's world class and it would be a crying shame if he didn't play.

lets be realistic atkins is the best english centre and myler has had a fantastic season this year

Jack Reed is reported to be up for England selection. Just been in the press over here.

Any links?

news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-sp ... 1ka6p.html

news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-sp ... 1ka6p.html

Yeah buddy!

That fills me with a bit more hope for our three quarter line.

We may even put up a fight

Thats what I keep thinking, then I remember our coach couldnt motivate a monkey to scratch its and all faith is lost

www.nrl.com/reed-set-to-snub-aus ... fault.aspx

www.nrl.com/reed-set-to-snub-aus ... fault.aspx

1.Tomkins
2.Briscoe
3.Shenton
4.Atkins
5.Hall
6.McGuire
7.Brough
8.Carvell
9.Roby
10.Graham
11.J Tomkins
12.Ellis
13.Sinfield

14.Mossop
15.Westwood
16.Peacock
17.Myler

1. Sam Tomkins
2. Josh Charnley
3. Jack Reed
4. Chris Bridge
5. Tom Briscoe
6. Gareth Widdop
7. Danny Brough
8. James Graham
9. James Roby
10. Jamie Peacock
11. Gareth Ellis
12. Ben Westwood
13. Sean O'Loughlin

14. Lee Mossop
15. Adrian Morley
16. Joel Tomkins
17. Rob Burrow

On paper thats the best england side for a long time