Yes when Wellens was 22, he had won three Grand Finals, a Challenge Cup and a World Club Challenge.

Tomkins is 22 and has won one Grand Final.

But that doesn't mean anything as to who is better anyway, I think Tomkins is better than Wellens was at that age. It was you who brought up the 'show us your medals' argument to say that Tomkins has won more than Schofield. Most of the current Warrington team have won more major medals than Schofield, does it mean they are better than him?

I just think he was a good one out of a ok bunch. Not a lot of full time pros and so on. He even said virtually the same when we lost to the aussies.

Oh the irony. Can you read? Did you read my post? [size=150WATCH THE INTERVIEW [/size<-- can you see it now

In response to your last post both Edwards and Gregory were better than Schofield. so thats 2 more....

what, Pieman's outrageous statement that Schofield was just a 'good one out of an ok bunch' or the even more outlandish claim that Schofield said the same about his own ability?

I can't believe you have referred to Leon Pryce in a discussion about the greatness or otherwise of Sam Tomkins. Sam is already a much better player than Pryce ever was or ever threatened to be. Your credibility is shot to pieces. Ridiculous.

Sam is going to be a legend. The only question is whether people will merely say that he was a great player and one of the best of the modern era or whether they will rate him alongside, or even head of, the rugby god that was Hanley. The more I see of this lad the more I think Hanley is going to struggle to retain his top spot. I just can't wait to see how Tomkins goes over the next couple of years. He is an extraordinary talent and it is so exciting to watch him get better and better and better.

I wasn't really bothered by what Pieman thought of Schofield, or what Schofield thinks of himself, it was just his reference to the likes of Hanley, Edwards and Gregory (Andy and Mike) et al as an "ok bunch" which I found rather shocking.

Like he said himself, there were 6-7 class players surrounded by average players in the GB team and in the league....did you see the interview too? I am only saying what he did.

i used to watch rugby with Nick in his Horwich pub..... Still a damned impressive bloke. A local drinker told me, " oh there is never any trouble in here, any fighting is done outside".

Yes I did see the interview and ,as usual, came away with the feeling that Schoey just seems to enjoy courting controversy and setting himself up as some self acclaimed spokesman for the "flat cap brigade"!
But am I not right in thinking that the "ok bunch" were your choice of words?
It's just that I think that the "ok bunch" referred to got us the closest we've been to a series win over the Aussies since the "Great Bitch Slapping of 1982!" As well as regularly beating the Kiwis.
We're all entitled to our opinions, both you and Schoey alike, it's just that I think that this particular group of players should be remembered as rather more than just an ok bunch.
But hey, that's what a forum is all about!

The thing is, most of the 1990/1992 side would probably walk into the 2011 side (certainly skill wise) yet the game has apparently improved.

Isn't Garry Schofield the only Englishman to top the try scoring charts in the NRL ?


And he was class as a player. Proof that he was a class player was the fact he was class as an International. Still a gob though