AJ fair enough you know best, your mind is made up and you are happy. Surprised you have resorted to name calling as a poster i normally respect but fair enough, its your opinion.


The fact you seem to be judging the next coaches achievements before he has even been named does make you think that your opinion is still and always will be in the pro Noble camp despite the evidence.

I have said for a while now there were two half's to the coaching situation at Wigan. The first was Noble not being coach in 2010. That alone was important in itself IMO for all the reasons done to death on this message board.

He's gone so I am happy about that.

Does this mean come Wednesday the new coach is bound to get unequivocal endorsement from me just because he isn't Nobby? Nope because that is another issue but I firmly believe Nobby had to go.

I am sure there will be posts similar to another of yours saying something along the lines of "what if we don't make the semis next year will the new coach have failed" but aren't such posts a but glib?

I am also sure I am not alone in thinking we have a poorly conditioned team and that this is something Nobby failed to address but I am not naive enough to think it can sorted out in one off season. It will take some time and so just like Nobby the new coach will be judged on whether or not he delivers steady progress. Nobby didn't do this and the semi's mask the fact he didn't.

The new coach, whoever he is, will get the same leeway Nobby did. When 2007 was a big disappointment after the way we finished 2006 Nobby got the benefit of the doubt. What it boils down to is the new coach starts with a clean slate just as Nobby did whoever it is.

Dave

Lets wait and see, you seem to hold a semi appearance as some form of success.

Hull
Wakefield
Catalans
Warrington

have had semi appearances while BN has been coach do not see too many of them claiming to have awesome seasons.

For someone that i have often had good debates with without any issue I have to say i am surprised you have resorted to name calling.

Lets speculate on the new man when he is named and judge him once he has had a crack at the job.

Noble is a great guy and i honestly felt sorry for him as he walked of to the dressing rooms but he hasnt progressed our team, the results over three years prove that so IL was correct by replacing him.

IL is no Mo.


I fear for our club under his stewardship.


Worst chairman in 20 years.

You may well be right, and I 'feel' that you are right.

With Mo, we knew he loved Wigan RLFC.

Folk can say what they like about Maurice Lyndsey, but he was/is, Wigan RL, through and through.

...because Noble isn't being replaced by Shaun Wane

Says who?

Wait & see.

Some posters on here know my link into the club, but I hope you understand that I won't reveal it.

Fair enough. I'm assuming it's who everyone is expecting though?

My original post stating McGuire as Coach and Wane as his assistant is somewhere earlier in this merged thread (page 1 I think)

Noble v Lengan. Oh dear, see timesonline.typepad.com/rugby_le ... again.html

Noble v Lengan. Oh dear, see timesonline.typepad.com/rugby_le ... again.html

I disagree, Ian.

Quote ="Canyoubelieveit"Noble v Lengan. Oh dear, see timesonline.typepad.com/rugby_le ... again.html'" If that insinuation is true that Wigan were announcing their new coach via a press conference in the lead up to the Grand final, had we made it, then I am even less convinced about Mr Lenegan than I was before.

Quote ="Canyoubelieveit"Noble v Lengan. Oh dear, see timesonline.typepad.com/rugby_le ... again.html'" If that insinuation is true that Wigan were announcing their new coach via a press conference in the lead up to the Grand final, had we made it, then I am even less convinced about Mr Lenegan than I was before.

Sounds like there was a bit of friction there all right. Got to agree that this squad simply isn't good enough at the moment...

I think that if we had won, the press release would not have been released until after the GF

Could do with a fans forum right about now...

I wish there was I could have asked Noble how many Weetabix he can eat in a morning.

Me too.


IL should stop talking garbage, go out and buy us another prop instead of treating the coach of Wigan RL with next to zero respect.

Of course it is!! Are young players like phelps, Joel, tommy, Sam, Prescott, mcilorum & mossop not going to get better? Have they reached thier peaks already?

Can more not be extracted from feka, fielden, piggy, gleeson and Roberts?

There's so much more we could get out of this talented squad

Our team isn't as good as Saints or Leeds. Simple really.

IMO we are as good as Saints and we proved that last night. Also we will get better and Saints are already in decline with their key players getting older, more injury prone and slower.

Why don't you try being positive once in a while

Coley can put weight on and cut out the stupid penalties.

Fielden can put weight on, get some fire in his belly and cut the mistakes.

Riddell can get fitter.

Roberts in my eyes has comeon loads since the start of the season, always looks like a lazy bludger but he has got it and he needs to be given space to run with the ball.

Gleeson is really trying his heart out he needs to be given the ball with space to use his footwork to get the best out of him and Roberts but that is down to the halfbacks.

If us mere mortals can see that why couldn't Noble?

Looks like McGuire
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There is almost the equiv of a new front row in the players we have! Feka, piggy, fielden & Coley all can do much better.

At least one person isn't all doom and gloom