Its annoying me this now. Ive watched the highlights. I take it back it was only 3 out of the 5 Cas tries, Smith was at fault for...

The disallowed try - Smith missed the tackle.

Smith missed the attacker twice in the build up to the first try. Cas eventually passed it out and they put the kick in and scored.

The second try was definatly Smiths fault.

The third try wasnt Smiths fault as it was a cross field kick.

The fourth Cas try was where he got carried 10 metres.



The fifth try was not Smiths fault so I take that back..

I actually like Tim Smith I think he could be a cracking player for us if he sorts his defence out and gets utilised at scrum half in attack.

My point is why has Goulding been dropped for something that was beyond his control? I am not saying that Goulding was faultless last week but christ on a bike this Goulding witch hunt is doing my head in.

i d go with that matey

As it's doing mine it that there are many who are blinkered to the massive defencies in his game.

Thats what I would go with. Hopefully Mathers can get himself a 5 match ban from the water carriers position.

Is Prescott still injuried ?

He ain't that type of guy remember

I hope to god S.Tomkins makes the final 17!

well he aint playing tonight so i would say its given he is in the 17

Don't know if this was replied to.

Clean Breaks - Selected Few

Karl Pryce 2
Joel Tomkins 2
Thomas Leuluai 2
Shaun Ainscough 2
Darrell Goulding 1
Pat Richards 1
Tim Smith 0
Mark Riddell 0
Richard Mathers 0

David Waite? Think I read a quote of his to that effect on the changing room door in St Pats, but whoever put it there seemed to have misunderstood it because he wrote in big black marker pen next to it "So in other words you can't defend if you can't tackle!" When really the quote was saying that although obviously if you can't tackle you'll be a weak link, you defend as a team not as a player. A very relevant point to those who were booing Tim Smith and cheering on Darrell Goulding.

Hope so

After three poor performances and over half the team being overseas imports, Noble is yet to drop one.
What odds on that

Do you fancy your chances against the Quins tomorrow?

19 Man Squad for Wigan

14 Tony Clubb
6 Luke Dorn
3 Matt Gafa
21 Luke Gale
19 Jason Golden
23 Daniel Heckenberg
4 David Howell
15 Ben Kaye
18 Joe Mbu
10 Louie McCarthy-Scarsbrook
1 Chris Melling
7 Danny Orr
13 Rob Purdham
9 Chad Randall
12 Chad Robinson
5 Will Sharp
8 Karl Temata
17 Danny Ward
2 Jon Wells

Injury News

Luke Williamson (hamstring)
Gareth Haggerty (knee)

Quins play well as a team very much in the same way that Wakefield do and we struggled bigtime against them so i can't say i'm overly confident. I do have afeeling though that our players will want to prove a point to a few people so it should be a tight tussle.

I don't think theres any doubt Wigan have the better group of players but the same could be said of us against Wakey, Hull and Cas yet we lost all 3. It doesn't matter how good your team looks on paper if they don't play as a team.

Our lads need to get their heads down and work hard for each other.

1 Richards
2 Roberts
3 Bailey
4 Carmont
5 Ainscough
6 Tomkins
7 Smith
8 Fielden
9 Tommy
10 O'Carroll
11 Hansen
12 Lockers
13 J Tomkins
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14 Feka
15 Hock
16 Piggy
17 Pryce

Thats my team. Can't see it happening thou.

Roberts
Ainscough, Bailey, Carmont, Richards
Tomkins, Leuluai
Fielden, Riddell, O'Carroll
Hansen, Tomkins
O'Loughlin

Smith, Pryce, Hock, Feka

Goulding didn't make the squad?

Roberts
Ainscough, Carmont, Bailey, Richards
Tomkins, Smith
Fielden, Riddell, O'Carroll
Hansen, Tompkins
O'Loughlin

Lulu, Hock, Feka, Coley

It's interesting that a number of you are putting Hock on the bench. Has he gone backwards with his development. I thought he was a 80 minute second rower of international status

No, he's generally used as an impact player and is still of an international status.

Been busy and hadn't looked. That is an easy edit then.

Does anyone know if Goulding in injured or if he is taking the blame for the defence last week rather than the main culprit?

He is taking flack for his poor defence yes, and he has been dropped based on the last 3 games which he has been poor in all of them.

I assume you are speaking about Tim Smith as the main culprit? How on earth can we drop him? We dont have the luxury of that.

For this weekend due to McIllorum's suspension I agree with you, but it would be interesting to see if Nobby would have dropped him if all players were available.

Except he didn't play against Wakefield.



But to be fair that's the lowest number of tries we have conceded in a game this season.