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| Not optimistic about this one I have to say. Hoping for miracles with Finch and Gleeson.
The next three games are Huddersfield, Warrington and Leeds. I'd definitely take 2 out of 3 wins right now with the injuries and our so/so form. Even 1 win wouldn't be a disaster in my opinion as you have to feel very confident this team will go from strength to strength in the summer.
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| Quote ="martinbuckley"Maybe our injured No3 will be back too.'"
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| 1. Roberts
2. Goulding
3. Marsh
4. Carmont
5. Charnley
6. Sam
7. Leuluai
8. Prescott
9. McIlorum
10. Coley
11. Hoffman
12. Hansen
13. O'Loughlin
14. Lima
15. Tuson
16. Mossop
17. Farrell
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| Quote ="Katrina"1. Roberts
2. Goulding
3. Marsh
4. Carmont
5. Charnley
6. Sam
7. Leuluai
8. Prescott
9. McIlorum
10. Coley
11. Hoffman
12. Hansen
13. O'Loughlin
14. Lima
15. Tuson
16. Mossop
17. Farrell'"
That's the team I think Madge will go with. I know a lot of people have their worries about Marsh, but the coaching staff seem to like him there.
Just for the record I think we'll win next week. We played poorly today, something we won't do next week.
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| Why was Roberts pulled today? Happened on a couple of occasions this season now.
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| Quote ="MattyB"Why was Roberts pulled today? Happened on a couple of occasions this season now.'"
He wasnt pulled out, simply didnt make the grade over Charnley.
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| Quote ="19 Leagues"He wasnt pulled out, simply didnt make the grade over Charnley.'"
Reet. Cert to be in now then.
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| I'd go for:
Roberts
Goulding, O'Loughlin, Carmont, Charnley
Tomkins, Leuluai
Prescott, McIlorum, Coley
Hoffman, Farrell,
Hansen
Decaon, Lima, Mossop, Tuson
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| Sort the discipline and we should win. Lots of stupid errors today, which all need to be addressed this week by Madge.
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| Quote ="Connor The Warrior"Sort the discipline and we should win. Lots of stupid errors today, which all need to be addressed this week by Madge.'"
I don't know why people harp on about or perceived poor discipline? The style of RL we play means refs are always going to give penalties against us.
Do people really think we could, or even should, go all the game without committing some sort of offence?
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| Discipline wasnt the problem, that was the problem for them. Our problem was intensity, it was shocking until after the red. We looked miles better when we stepped it up after we went down to 12.
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| Not convinced Maguire will play anyone else at fullback if Tomkins is available.
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| Quote ="Bridger"I'd go for:
Roberts
Goulding, O'Loughlin, Carmont, Charnley
Tomkins, Leuluai
Prescott, McIlorum, Coley
Hoffman, Farrell,
Hansen
Decaon, Lima, Mossop, Tuson'"
I can see where you are coming from, but Lockers is just too much of an attacking threat in the middle of the park at loose (just look at charnleys trys, they wouldnt have been scored if Lockers was outwide at centre) I do think we need someone bigger out there to help Goulding, sure any of our 2nd rowers wouldnt let us down if we were desperate.
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| Quote ="MadDogg"Not convinced Maguire will play anyone else at fullback if Tomkins is available.'"
Well if Deacon isn't fit, who other than Sam is capable of playing 6? It only leaves Lockers.
We look far more threatening with:
1. Amos
6. Tomkins
7. Leuluai
As opposed to.
1. Sam
6. Lockers
7. Leuluai
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| Quote ="LovesToSpooge"Well if Deacon isn't fit, who other than Sam is capable of playing 6? It only leaves Lockers.
We look far more threatening with:
1. Amos
6. Tomkins
7. Leuluai
As opposed to.
1. Sam
6. Lockers
7. Leuluai'"
Possibly so but I bet you Maguire will go with the second option.
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| Quote ="19 Leagues"I can see where you are coming from, but Lockers is just too much of an attacking threat in the middle of the park at loose (just look at charnleys trys, they wouldnt have been scored if Lockers was outwide at centre) I do think we need someone bigger out there to help Goulding, sure any of our 2nd rowers wouldnt let us down if we were desperate.'"
I also see where you're coming from but there's no point scoring tries if we're conceding at an equal or faster rate.
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| Quote ="MadDogg"Possibly so but I bet you Maguire will go with the second option.'"
So do I. And I bet he's goes with Marsh at centre to. Even if Joel is available to play.
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| Quote ="MadDogg"Possibly so but I bet you Maguire will go with the second option.'"
Given the choices, Madge does seem to prefer Lockers at 6 than Roberts in at FB.
Could be a boost to us with Lockers at 6 though, gives us an extra forward on the pitch for what will no doubt be a tough game.
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| Quote ="Bridger"I also see where you're coming from but there's no point scoring tries if we're conceding at an equal or faster rate.'"
Which is why it would probably be better putting someone like Hoff, Tuson, HH there instead of Lockers. That way we have the attacking threat of Lockers in the middle and a tighter defence along that side.
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| Sam gets more protection at Full Back than at Stand off and I think he'll see the season out there. The way he was hit yesterday, you wouldnt think he was protected. The Dull FC spoiling tactics and the targetting of Sam nearly worked and I expect Huddlesfield will already have had a game plan similar to Dulls even before they saw yesterdays match. I fully expect Huddlesfield to pull no punches, especially given the recent history Lockers/Robinson etc. Wigan will need to stand firm, and face up to a brutal tests. I expect Warrington to act exactly the same, but Leeds lack to size and do the same and at least have some players, rather than thugs. 2 out of 3? 3 out of 3 please, but our strength in depth will be tested. Shame we haven't any spare centres!!!
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| This game is about decoding and defending the 3-5 simple plays that Brown coaches.
Finding a good centre is the key. FB and 5/8 aren't that important to get exactly right. Safety first for this game with so many injuries.
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| I think we'll beat them, Wire is were we might come unstuck.
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| I wish people would stop banging on about how Tomkins should be playing stand off. He is playing 6, he has been there all season, he just defends at full back.
Look at how the Aussies usually play.
The full back is usually an elusive creative player who chimes in at second reciever. Slater, Bowen, Hunt, Hodgeson, Patten, Gidley etc etc I could go on and on. Virtually every NRL teams best player is usually at full back chiming into the line at second reciever ala the old stand off position.
They all defend at full back but attack as a stand off and hit the line at pace. This is exactly the role that Sam plays for us he may have the number one on his back but he is effectively playing stand off. This position brings the best out of him because he gets to hit the line at pace with players supporting him on either side.
IF Deacon is not fit, leave Sam where he is, Tommy can play the little general fole, he needs to step up and control the game from 7 and O'Loughlin can support him from 6 as he has the hands to do so, he can defend on the right hand side to shore up our defence.
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| Keep Sam at 1. If he played all game at 6 he'd get hammered by the Hudds forwards. Hull FC are nothing compare to Hudds when it comes to smacking players high around the head.
Our forwards have to get stuck into Mason, Griffin and Co and not take a back step.
Hudds have more headhunters than a recruitment agency!
After yesterday the intensity levels need looking at too.
Play next Friday like we did for the first 65 mins and it will be very difficult. Play like they did in the final 15 mins and Wigan have every chance of a win.
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| Hudds are a better team than Hull.
We will need to up our game ten fold if we are to get any kind of result on Friday night.
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