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| Quote ="Dougy"More ridiculous than I thought, finishing top should guarantee a home match for every play off game. What the hell do we actually play 27 games for?
We're better off finishing 4th and winning in week 1 than finishing top and losing in week 1. The RFL astound me.'"
Completely agree with you. I've no problem with the top 8, no problem with club call even but the fact that league position does not always dictate home advantage in my opinion is a farce.
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| Quote ="Jeff the God of Biscuits"It's simple to me. If you lose that first game, you lose the home tie in the final eliminator.'"
Thats correct.
It's all to try and create a more fairer system where you reward the team coming top with a potential week off and a choice of opponent in the last game whilst giving a carrot to the other team that if they win at the higher ranked team then so long as they win the week after they get rewarded with the home advantage.
It's supposed to make it less easy for the top 2 to compete in every GF (which has happened every year bar one and including last year under the new system) and stop the fact that if the league leaders win one game they are straight through to the final whereas now the league leaders have to win a minimum of 2 games to get to Old Trafford.
Its a compromise between the system we had and the NRL system which i think is called the McIntyre system or something.
Thats the theory anyway. The reality is that there are more games for Sky to show and more revenue to the RFL/clubs from the extra games,which would be the cynics view.
So still an advantage to finish top,just not quite as big an advantage as in previous years
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| The club call thing is a nonsense though. You could tell Leeds were a bit embarrassed by the whole thing last year.
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| Quote ="MadDogg"Completely agree with you. I've no problem with the top 8, no problem with club call even but the fact that league position does not always dictate home advantage in my opinion is a farce.'"
Why is it? You get a home tie in week one, if you win you get a week off and home tie in week 3. If you lose, you get a home tie in week 2 and away in week 3. Why should the team that beats the first placed team in week one be forced to play away in the third week, if they so chose to play the team that finished first again? Don't you think that's farcical? The rules are fair, the team finishing top has the opportunity to lose a game, and still be in the comp, 2 home ties and a potential away tie. I just don't see why people can complain about this, as in my view, it's perfectly fair.
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| The top 5 system used in 98 was the best. If they insist on rewarding mediocrity by involving 8 teams then the current Aussie system is the way.
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| Did I miss something? Top 8 teams in the play-offs?
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| Quote ="TonyM19"Did I miss something? Top 8 teams in the play-offs?'"
You seemingly missed all of last season....
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| Quote ="TonyM19"Did I miss something? Top 8 teams in the play-offs?'"
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| I think top 6 is about right, if you finish outside the top half of the table you definitely shouldn't have a shot at winning the title!
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| When are the footy fixtures released, looking at the format(assume we stay in top 2) we could have a home game in week 1, 2 or 3 depending if we win in week 1 of the play - off's. Hope Whelan is not going to shaft us again if the mighty latics are at home
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| Quote ="Grimmy"I think top 6 is about right, if you finish outside the top half of the table you definitely shouldn't have a shot at winning the title!'"
Totally agree with you mate,top 8 is 2 too many for my liking and a bit of a farce and as for clubcall.
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| Quote ="Ket Kenny"When are the footy fixtures released, looking at the format(assume we stay in top 2) we could have a home game in week 1, 2 or 3 depending if we win in week 1 of the play - off's. Hope Whelan is not going to shaft us again if the mighty latics are at home'"
Good point but I would have hoped that the club will have looked into that well in advance.
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Still makes no sense to me...
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| I completely disagree with the fact that it's top 8 for starters... Why should teams outside the top half even have a chance? Infact... I even think the whole of the top half is too much. It's the top quarter in football for the play offs isn't it?
Also, club call is completely disrespectful, and if anything, makes the chosen team even more determined to beat the team that has chosen to play them.
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| Quote ="Katrina"
Also, club call is completely disrespectful, and if anything, makes the chosen team even more determined to beat the team that has chosen to play them.'"
That was a Nigel Wood idea, wasn't it? Says it all, really.
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| Should be top 5 at most IMO. Top 4 or 3 would be better.
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| Quote ="Finfin"The top 5 system used in 98 was the best. If they insist on rewarding mediocrity by involving 8 teams then the current Aussie system is the way.'"
I totally agree and was about to post something similar. The top 5 was was easily the best as you had to beat every team that finshed above you to win it. It had the perfect balance of rewarding where you finished in the league and yet still gave others a chance to win it, albeit made much more difficult. The top 8 is a bit of a joke imo as I dont see why you should be able to finish in the bottom half of the table and still be in the play offs. It would be okay if there were 18 teams in the league but with just 14 it just rewards mediocrity.
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| In the playoffs last year and did quite well but now you think you may finish top you want to change the rules. Priceless.
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| Quote ="Famous"...it just rewards mediocrity.'"
Quite so, which is exactly what the RFL is all about these days.
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"In the playoffs last year and did quite well but now you think you may finish top you want to change the rules. Priceless.'"
Total rubbish. I think you will find that most RL fans, regardless of club, dont like the current top 8 format for the reasons stated.
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"In the playoffs last year and did quite well but now you think you may finish top you want to change the rules. Priceless.'"
Not true. I did think it was ridiculous last year and damaging to the integrity of the comp that finishing in the top 4 gives you practically the same advantages of finishing top.
If we finish top, I will also treat the awarding of the League Leaders Shield with the same kind of apathy as I did when St Helens won it three times in a row. If you're going to have a playoff system, I don't think you can award anything to the league leaders - it doesn't make sense. I most certainly won't class Wigan winning the League Leaders Shield as the end of our trophy drought.
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"In the playoffs last year and did quite well but now you think you may finish top you want to change the rules. Priceless.'"
Thats Rubbish, I was never in favor of the top 8 system, even though its better than the awful top 6 system. I dont think you will be able to find any evidence to back up your point looking on this forum.
As stated before the Top 5 was by far the best, much better than what we have here now, or in the NRL
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| Bring back the top 16 play offs I say!
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| Quote ="shambawangy"Thats Rubbish, I was never in favor of the top 8 system, even though its better than the awful top 6 system. I dont think you will be able to find any evidence to back up your point looking on this forum.
As stated before the Top 5 was by far the best, much better than what we have here now, or in the NRL'"
Agree top 5 was the best.
Massive advantage to the top 2 which is exactly how it ought to be.
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"In the playoffs last year and did quite well but now you think you may finish top you want to change the rules. Priceless.'"
What a muppet.
Most of us haven't changed our tune on this matter, nor the CC, irrespective of our league position.
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