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| Quote ="Alex BP'"I know, it's ridiculous.
Somebody will be suggesting we're about to sign Martin Gleeson next!'"
When that was a rumour there was some substance in it.
Why anyone thinks, we can all of a sudden start going round splashing the cash and rebuilding the squad (pulling apart others') is beyond me.
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| Quote ="Steinlager"Is this a rumour thread or a dream team thread.
People talk about Dobson and Brough like they're out of contract, or there's any substance in getting them out of contract.'"
Its a signings thread so I guess its fine for people to sign who would love to sign even if it does sound out of this world.
Dobson would maybe come here later in his career but he is doing a great job at Hull KR.
Brough will stay at wakey for the rest of his career unless Bradford get him at the end of his contract.
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| Quote ="Steinlager"When that was a rumour there was some substance in it.
Why anyone thinks, we can all of a sudden start going round splashing the cash and rebuilding the squad (pulling apart others') is beyond me.'"
We do make approaches to clubs and players lots never get out some do and some actually come off like the Gleeson one think you will find most teams do as they are always trying to strengthen there squads.
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| Quote ="Andy Greg"We do make approaches to clubs and players lots never get out some do and some actually come off like the Gleeson one think you will find most teams do as they are always trying to strengthen there squads.'"
Not quite as muchas you seem to think. The players that have been singled out, have been for a reason: they are quality players, important to their respective clubs.
As was Martin Gleeson, but if you listen to the Chairman and analyse the situation the circumstances surrounding the Wolves conspired such that he was available. And its that which makes him different from all the others that are now being touted around, not the money on the table.
This was a rumour thread. The title's just changed slightly.
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| Quote ="Steinlager"Not quite as muchas you seem to think. The players that have been singled out, have been for a reason: they are quality players, important to their respective clubs.
As was Martin Gleeson, but if you listen to the Chairman and analyse the situation the circumstances surrounding the Wolves conspired such that he was available. And its that which makes him different from all the others that are now being touted around, not the money on the table.
This was a rumour thread. The title's just changed slightly.'"
Well it more than you think i know we have not approached Dobson since he came available and went to Hull K.R. And after what he said when he left Wigan that he would like to come back to us then when he is available he go's for the money. Well i for one would not want him back it shows he has no passion for the club and the only reason he is over here is because he cant get in a decent side in the NRL
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| Quote ="Andy Greg"We do make approaches to clubs and players lots never get out some do and some actually come off like the Gleeson one think you will find most teams do as they are always trying to strengthen there squads.'"
The Gleeson rumour was strong because it was more than just an approach.
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| Quote ="odemwingie"Quote ="Andy Greg"We do make approaches to clubs and players lots never get out some do and some actually come off like the Gleeson one think you will find most teams do as they are always trying to strengthen there squads.'"
The Gleeson rumour was strong because it was more than just an approach.'" '"
I know was told about it 2 weeks ago and at that time was no more than tentative talks between the clubs
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| joking and banter aside
1.He never wanted to be here
2.He's a good player but you'll never get 100% out of a guy who doesn't want to be here
3. It was a good bit of business getting a decent amount of money for someone we were prepared to let go for nothing.
4. Richie only played well under TS so there is some potential + we need a fullback if the Reardon being released rumours are true.
5. All in all it suits everyone, you lot are taking the mick out of us because you think you got a better deal and vice versa. what that says to me is it doesn't matter because everyone's happy, especially Mathers and Gleeson.
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| I seen that on Riddells facebook, "I wonder were my mate finchy will end up" which has now gone.
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| Quote ="Andy Greg"Well it more than you think i know we have not approached Dobson since he came available and went to Hull K.R. And after what he said when he left Wigan that he would like to come back to us then when he is available he go's for the money. Well i for one would not want him back it shows he has no passion for the club and the only reason he is over here is because he cant get in a decent side in the NRL'"
Exactly, so there's no substance it's mere fantasy.
And whether Dobson moves for the money or not, it doesn't come into the equation unless he is available.
Martin Gleeson was available due to circumstances, not because we offered them a deal to satisfy both parties.
Hull KR have a player who is extremely important to them, fits into their game and structure well. At this stage of the season and his contract, the club have no reason nor interest to let Wigan near him, unless we stumped up a figure that would be ludicrous.
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| Quote ="Steinlager"When that was a rumour there was some substance in it.
Why anyone thinks, we can all of a sudden start going round splashing the cash and rebuilding the squad (pulling apart others') is beyond me.'"
If you dont like this thread dont come on it and stop your moaning
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| Quote ="fazwigan4eva"If you dont like this thread dont come on it and stop your moaning
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I'm just putting things into perspective, just find it irritating how some Wigan fans believe we are a couple of factors away from being invincible, and how its easily fixed by poaching who we want.
Also irritating as this was originally meant for rumours, and now you have spend ten minutes scooting through fantasy to catch up.
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| Quote ="Steinlager"I'm just putting things into perspective, just find it irritating how some Wigan fans believe we are a couple of factors away from being invincible, and how its easily fixed by poaching who we want.
Also irritating as this was originally meant for rumours, and now you have spend ten minutes scooting through fantasy to catch up.'"
I make for interesting discussion about which players we need etc.
I dont think Dobson is an unrealistic target tbh.
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| i heard the Iro brothers are coming out of retirement to turn Wigan around
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| Quote ="wigan_knight"Whos coming turn you around GOD ??
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I know he can work miracles but COME ON.
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| Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"I know he can work miracles but COME ON.'"
2055 YEAR OF THE WOLF
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| Quote ="wigan_knight"2055 YEAR OF THE WOLF
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Remember the 80's
When you won everything
yes that was a level playing field wasn't it money wise
Trophy haul before salary cap (billions)
after salary cap (1)
face it your just as good as us now (unlucky mate)
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| Quote ="Wire_Yed_79"Remember the 80's
When you won everything
yes that was a level playing field wasn't it money wise
Trophy haul before salary cap (billions)
after salary cap (2)
face it your just as good as us now (unlucky mate)'"
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| Quote ="Wire_Yed_79"Remember the 80's
When you won everything
yes that was a level playing field wasn't it money wise
Trophy haul before salary cap (billions)
after salary cap (1)
face it your just as good as us now (unlucky mate)'"
You've allegedly stretched your SC beyond the limit through the HMRC NI dodge and you still have won feck all
19 years since you last got to a CC Final - I hear that you are re-naming your 'Trophy Room' to 'Room'
Warrington - the club where every cup has a saucer
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| Quote ="Wire_Yed_79"Remember the 80's
When you won everything
yes that was a level playing field wasn't it money wise
Trophy haul before salary cap (billions)
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face it your just as good as us now (unlucky mate)'"
We've won two trophies after the salary cap.
I don't get your point as Warrington have won feck all before and after the salary cap
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| Quote ="cadoo"We've won two trophies after the salary cap.
I don't get your point as Warrington have won feck all before and after the salary cap
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point is you 'were' a great team due to an unfair financial advantage.
a time when you used this unfair advantage to amass a substantial amount of success.
You mock other teams because you managed to win so many trophies when you were (in essence) in a league of 1 team.
Saints were the only team that kept close to you which is why they managed to overtake you when the fields were leveled.
Say what you like about Wire and all our recent financial gains due to a certain millionaire. Truth is money talks, always has always will.
Does everyone hate Wigan?
No
but we do find you arrogant in a similar way as people find Man Utd fans arrogant.
Difference being Man Utd are 'still' successful.
Warrington are rubbish yadda yadda yadda. Wigan are awesome
(cue posts of anger and/or ridicule)
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| Given the rise of Sam Tomkins I wonder if Smith is worth keeping. He will clearly be on a decent(ish) salary,and similar to Mathers, is playing in the reserves most of the time.
Releasing him could free up cap space for another mid-season signing (perhaps the prop we so desperately need).
It also appears to be a waste of an overseas spot (because lets face it - overseas plaers are meant to be very valuable and Bailey, Smith and Roberts are not imo).
Also the signing of Gleeson means that if/when Sam needs a break, we now have enuogh cover in the halves, with Goulding/Bailey able to cover Gleeson in the centre.
Whilst I think his contract does run out at the end of this year and we would be stupid to consider renewing it) I have to ask the benefit of keeping him. His defense is a liabilty as well!
Obviously if he stays then I really want him to do well because we have seen small glimpses of his talent - but is his realistically going to get a decent run of games (not coming of the bench) to get the confidence and match practise he needs??
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