Yet you eat it up and reply

McIlorum won 10 challenge cups TODAY?

What did Bailey win today?

Same as McIlorum. But a whole lot more yesterday.

I was at the grand final mate! Haha.

I've had a belting day!

So why bring Bailey in to a Clarke v McIlorum, sorry the saints fan put McIlorum first, a McIlorum v Clarke thread.

FFS! Read this trolls post on the vt about our club & coach for everything you need to know about it.
Do one cretin!

Hahahahaha. Like I said, I don't pretend not to hate Wigan. I'm still capable of being grown up about it. The only people trolling, derailing and throwing insults are the Wigan fans on here.

It was obvious today that Clarke was a better player, I showed that for all of this season so far, by every available metric, Clarke is significantly better. You brought medals into it, & unnecessary, classless, personal insults. Are you related to your coach?

The cap wouldn't apply to Powell.

I was bringing to the table, in a between the lines kind of way that McIlorum is proven(as Roby has done), by what he had achieved. Clarke is a beltin player, but if he never wins anything stats that you quoted don't really matter. By all means bring this back in August, or October.
And as for personal insults, I'm not going to sit back and let you call me crazy.

Sometimes there are great players at clubs that haven't won silverware though. I get what you're saying about certain players being "proven" but it's unfair to judge a player based on what their team have won.

Where the hell as 10 cc come from?

The guy is mad.

Cas and Warrington agreed a deal for cas to buy him back. This is 100% from a Cas director.

Clark could not agree a deal with Cas as Cas wanted to put in his contract that he could not leave to a Superleague club and only NRL. Clark declined so moves on to Warrington. All 100% accurate.

Probably the most reasoned post on this thread.
All three are great rugby league players, and there is no doubt that on Saturday McIlorum had a poor game.
My thoughts are that when McIlorum has a good game, and he has had quite a few this season already, his style of play is what is more likely to help us beat the Aussies. I Like Clark and Roby has been a top player all his career but i don't see them frightening anybody at international level, whereas i do feel McIlorum has that x factor that should see him as the England No 9.

According to the warrington Chairman, Clarke has signed for wire and it will be announced in the next 10 days. Replacement for michael Monaghan

This and St Petes post to which you responded are all that is worth reading in this train wreck of a thread

Unfortunately I agree. What started out as a genuine thread has descended into petty squabbling.

McNamara will probably pick Matt Diskin anyway

All of McIlorum's strengths are without the ball. The only thing I would like better than beating up the Aussies is beating them in a series. With McIlorum we have a better chance with the former than the latter. His limitations were cruelly exposed in the WC, his sort of in your face aggression has minimal impact. Talk of frightening the Aussies is comedy gold, that sort of rubbish was spouted before the WC. With our weak HBs we need some flare elsewhere, Roby & Clarke have that in buckets.

Clark (no e) is the best hooker in the league and should be pushing JP all the way for MOS. Roby runs him close but I genuinely believe Clark is better. I didn't realise Micky Mac was playing until he was subbed.

McIlorum and Clark are both completely different types of players, would be the perfect mix playing 40 mins each in a team.

I had to ask the guy next to me which one Clark was.

Didn't notice him at all yesterday.

McIllorum clearly wasn't match fit yesterday (neither was O'Loughlin!), but he still crunched a few of your forwards.

He doesn't have the scooting game of Roby/Clark, but he distributes the ball well from dummy half and sets the tone in defence.

Probably my favourite Wigan player.

MM must be better than Roby as he won the last game between the 2 and was better on the pitch....or is that only for when wigan lose?

Here we go, the old argument that if your team wins then you have automatically "owned" your opponent. Brilliant.

When people enter into a little bit of banter with YG, just keep in mind a post he made on the Cas board, talking about Wane, and all of us....

"He sums up the Wigan club. Horrible, arrogant people who spit their dummies out then things don't go their way.

I'm delighted they lost.
by The Yellow Giraffe"