Yeah I've noticed he's slowed down tremendously don't whether that's down to weight gain or perhaps injury, would be interested to hear how many minutes he's doing seem to recall he was doing the full 80 minutes last year in most matches certainly would love him at Wigan sadly wasted at Bradford.

He's doing about 65 - 70 minutes each game, the same as last year before his injury. Why is he wasted at Bradford?

Personally I think the clubs on a downward spiral that it may not recover from the new ground may save them if it ever materializes, perhaps a little rich coming from a Wigan fan but there you go.

In what way are the club in a downward spiral?

You never know, people said there was no chance we would try to sign Long, but we did make a bid, IL is a big fan of Terry.

If you compare are form with there's the's not that much difference however although are crowds have dipped a little which you would expect there's have dropped rather more to say the least, as well as the rumours of financial problems that are reported to plague the club. And to be fair Wigan's player recruitment compared to there's looks like a master stroke, living in west Yorkshire the feeling about the club have taken a big hit there's not that high in the city there once was plus the huge strides that Leeds of made. In fact Leeds the city reminds me very much of Bradford five to six years ago with the bumper stickers and genearl feeling within the city that the club is doing well. Of course this is my own personal view but I certainly don't really here any good things coming out of bradford these days regarding the club.
Don't get me wrong I hope things do turn round for them but personally cant see, not with out the new stadium at least.

Believe it or not I actually do, plus been to quite a few of the games, when traveling with the England A squad over in Oz. Aussie fans were great to when I went over for the WC last year.

I agree with the comment below your's, our home atmosphere is very very poor, we have a drum, great stuff, no songs that all of the fans know.

Were as Leeds and Hull KR have an atmosphere which is 100x better then ours.

I'd be happy next year with

FB - Briscoe (Will come for the right ££ I think)
RW - Roberts
RC - Gleeson
LC - Carmont/Pryce
LW - Richards
SO - S. Tomkins
SH - Myler (Will be killing himself to play for a high reputation club come the end of the year)
PR - Fielden
HK - Riddell
PR - Lynch (Think he's the only prop in GB worth a pop at whos off contract, plus the only prop I think we'll get)
SR - Hock
SR - J. Tomkins
LF - O'Loughlin

Bench
Feka
Tommy
Hansen/Mossop
Coley

If Carmont was to go at the end of the year, could people see Richards as a Centre on the left?

LC - Richards
LW - Ainscough

Problem sovled with the high balls, Richards would provide very good support play on the left hand side to Ainscough who breaks for fun.

No, there isn't a lot of difference in form, in fact Wigan have lost 1 more game than the Bulls and played 2 more so there's a chance the Bulls might over take them soon. About the crowds, all teams experience dips and rises in their crowds, that doesn't mean much, in fact Bulls still have one of the highest crowd averages in the league despite a dip in form. I wouldn't listen to the reported 'rumours', because ythat is all they are. The Bulls are not plagued by financial problems as stated by their chairman Peter Hood and just last year posted a large profit. I don't see what you're getting at with the recruitement either? Do you mean last year? This year? Master stroke? Wigan have lost more games than the Bulls and have 2 games in hand? What dya mean a masterstroke?

ive heard hes going back to cas

Quote ="lothlorian"ive heard hes going back to cas'" www.express.co.uk/posts/view/102 ... -the-roost He's alos expected to sign a new deal with Bulls according to this new article

Quote ="lothlorian"ive heard hes going back to cas'" www.express.co.uk/posts/view/102 ... -the-roost He's alos expected to sign a new deal with Bulls according to this new article

I have also heard this. good player and a hard grafter.

i would still like an o'meely type player who will ruffle a few feathers.

has anyone heard about Crabtree coming over?. there was a few folk talking about it on friday. not to sure myself mind.

Well I wouldn't say the players that Bradford signed this year were that great with the exception of Menzies, rich coming from a Wigan fan with the dross we have signed I know but I think the difference is that Wigan aren't playing to there potential where as Bradford are just a poor side and badly lack creativity and poor signings at the start of this year have gone no way to fixing the problems.
Regarding Peter Hood's comments about finances he's not going to come out and say their a sinking ship is he, in my opinion Bradford are papering over the cracks that Odsal stadium is giving them and there incredibly reliant upon the new stadium going through which obviously they would be.

that story was doing the rounds a couple of weeks ago. i think it has been denied by the roosters CEO recently.

Briscoe won't come, why would he?
Pryce in the reserves is boarding on a lost cause, looks really disinterested.
Myler is under contract, would cost more than he's worth.
Lynch is going to Cas, plus not that good.

Richards started at Wigan as a centre, it was a disaster.

Good lad Joel!

Wouldn't mind us signing him he has always impressed me and maybe is getting tired of not being picked for Origin and Aus and is ready to cut his losses.

I just want to see GB players in the squad, not Average Aussies.

Give the lad the odd game in the first grade or even involve him in the warming up, sure gets a player going inside.

How can you value Myler at such a young age, well worth the risk, as there's no-one else.

Lynch going to Cas - my link early in last page, says otherwise.

Richards, who'd of thought he'd be good-ish at FB, you develop your game, worth a risk for one game to see what it's like?

Well two of them were good enough for their respective grand final winning teams, I'd say that makes them good players and good signings. Bradford are not a poor side one bit, there just out of form at the minute, the same goes for Wigan in my books also. Do you seriously believe that Bradford don't have more potential than they are showing at the moment? Seriously.
As for Peter Hood, why would he lie about the finances, the Bulls are not in a financial crisis, that's all there is to it. You've been listening to to many rumours I'm afraid like a lot of the RL community does.
The Bulls will be in the playoffs this season and you can bet your bottom dollar nobody will fancy playing them.

We have already tried Richards there and it didn't work, but I do see you reasoning for contemplating playing him there, he's a big guy, got hand skills and speed, that's probably Millward's thinking as well when he tried him there.

Myler is 'hot property' wpuld be difficult to get him to sign without promising him a good wage, this would leave us with two very young halves, not ideal especially behind a beaten pack.

Why Lynch? Simply cos he's available? Hardly set the world on fire this season, and defo not an enforcer prop like we need. Doesn't really take the game by the scruff of it's neck and led from the front does he?

Don't get desperate just yet. IL may pull a surprise out of the bag.

Long has confirmed he turned down a move to Wigan- www.wigantoday.net/warriors/Long ... 5346388.jp I think thats the best for all parties really and at least we can continue hating the little chump Also in that piece Lenagan says he found 2 or 3 players he interested in down under that he feels will be really good for the club. He wouldn't comment on the rumour that one is Brett Finch.

Long has confirmed he turned down a move to Wigan- www.wigantoday.net/warriors/Long ... 5346388.jp I think thats the best for all parties really and at least we can continue hating the little chump Also in that piece Lenagan says he found 2 or 3 players he interested in down under that he feels will be really good for the club. He wouldn't comment on the rumour that one is Brett Finch.

Quote ="NickyKiss"Long has confirmed he turned down a move to Wigan- www.wigantoday.net/warriors/Long ... 5346388.jp I think thats the best for all parties really and at least we can continue hating the little chump Also in that piece Lenagan says he found 2 or 3 players he interested in down under that he feels will be really good for the club. He wouldn't comment on the rumour that one is Brett Finch.'" I wouldn't believe a word Sean Long said about anything. I also don't remotely believe that he'd have turned down any deal that meant he didn't have to move house, move his social life, etc, unless the money was significantly less than others were offering (in which case Wigan were doing the right thing by merely testing the water rather than making a big offer for him).

Quote ="NickyKiss"Long has confirmed he turned down a move to Wigan- www.wigantoday.net/warriors/Long ... 5346388.jp I think thats the best for all parties really and at least we can continue hating the little chump Also in that piece Lenagan says he found 2 or 3 players he interested in down under that he feels will be really good for the club. He wouldn't comment on the rumour that one is Brett Finch.'" I wouldn't believe a word Sean Long said about anything. I also don't remotely believe that he'd have turned down any deal that meant he didn't have to move house, move his social life, etc, unless the money was significantly less than others were offering (in which case Wigan were doing the right thing by merely testing the water rather than making a big offer for him).

I would be astonished had we actually made an offer to Long.

That said IL does seem to be trying to bring back some Wigan born players.

I would now not be too surprised if the likes of Terry Newton will be back next year.

I keep hearing this, but I can't see how it would make sense.

It's not just Terry's age, or the fact that he's a jaded shadow of his former self - it's the fact that we don't need him. We already have three hookers.

I still think we attach too much importance to having "Wiganers" in the squad. Sure, it's desirable, but it shouldn't be the main critiera we apply. In fact, it should be well down the list.

maybe there's some truth in the rumours about piggy going at the end of the year??

even if he does go home, we have two hookers in the squad in TL and MM

Why? We need a SH