I thought he tired hard and probably ran with more vigour then normal but even with that he didn't make an impression.

He's a decent player and pretty solid but you need more then that to challenge for honours and i think we have that in Pryce. Even on a bad day Pryce is still going to be a handful and can bag you a much needed try just with his pure size.

You just hope the penny will drop with Pryce at some point.

I'm not sure how long he's got left. With the best will in the world, the club must now be feeling pretty disappointed in him.

I can't imagine he's on peanuts and feel sure his alarming lack of progress will be reflected when it comes to contract renewal time.

The thing is with Pryce you could see him accepting any sort of contract offer here and he'd just be happy to sit about in the reserves and train everyday fort he money without really being bothered about cracking the first team.

He doesn't look to have a passion for the game but he's so talented.

A realy shame.

I don't think we're far off the point where people will say: "If he was going to break back into the first team, he'd have done it by now."

The current first-team have been less than glowing in some of their performances, so you'd think it would less difficult for him than normal. In addition, Pryce is supposed to be a big Wigan fan from way back, in which case you'd think he'd be doubly motivated.

Another disappointing signing thus far, but I don't blame the club for this - Pryce showed enormous promise when he was young, and I was depressed when he went off to Union. I thought it was a great capture when he supposedly came back.

Yes you do get employed on 'track record'.

Thats what he said

But there is more to it than that, more things to consider, and rarely do you get a top job simply because of track record, it is a great indicator but clearly not the be all and end all.

I was in the get rid of at the end of season camp.

However last week I was with someone who trains and plays alongside Pryce.
He was of the opinion that Pryce should be give another year, but really punished in pre-season prior to the 2010 season. Pre season training is apparently quite a bit different to in season training.

I'm sure Jonh can enlighten us.

I was at the reserve game this week and I was really disheartened by the way Pryce played, in particular how he failed to take on the line, its like he doesn't realise how big he is.

At his size, in the reserves he should be a total nightmare for the opposition hitting the line hard and causing problems every time he has the ball.

I don't know if playing him at 6 is such a good idea, in this position he has the option to pass the ball along the line rather than being forced to run at the line.
This for me is were Pryce needs to improve, he needs to learn his size and understand if he hits the line at pace giving it his all he will be a handful every single time he takes the ball up.
See the opposition struggle will build his confidence and allow him to develop playing to his strengths which is his size and speed.

I'd like to see Pryce in the centres or even second row in the reserves forcing him to work on his running game.
I often think Pryce at 6 was a lame attempt of turning him into his brother. When they are very different players.

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I think Phelps is worth another year but will then leave due to the reduction on the quota. This would allow us to send Pryce on loan and let Goulding go (just not good enough IMO

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If we could manage to sign a young (ish) top quality half back to patner Sam I think our backs would be sorted for a good while barring a couple of small changes. I can't see us finding the right aged half back so I think we will either stick with Tommy at 7 or bring in an ageing aussie.

For me we need 2 top draw prop forwards to start and intimidate our opposition because quite frankly Fielden and Coley(although he's been playing better) would struggle to intimidate a bunch of primary school children. An enforcer prop who can lead our forwards is needed to replace Coley, someone in the mould of Luke Bailey or Roy Asotasi. IL will need to pull of another Gleeson type deal but we have faith Ian!



Then for 2011 we have Fielden off contract and we should replace him with a prop who is extremely hardowrking and gets through a lot of work in both attack and defense. There are 2 young, English, quality forwards in Sam Burgess and LMS (you know who I mean

) off contract at that time. Either one of these players would be fantastic and would give us a front row that strikes some fear into opposition, laying the platform for the backs.

With Mossop more than likely breaking into the team next season we look to have a good back row full of young Wigan academy players. In a couple of years (when Liam Farrell cements his first team place) Hock or Mossop will most likely move up to prop IMO and this means one of Prescott or O'Carroll will have to leave unfortunately but hopefully this can bring the best out of them. Ben Davies will also come in to provide strong competition in the front row so the forwards should have some decent quality and good strength in depth. Dare I say it, laying the platform for the backs?

I think a lot of the players who we would like (particularly props) are just out of reach (Petro, Price, Poore, Roy, Bailey etc). All those listed are all playing Origin.

Would it be better to focus our time and effort on bringing in UK based props as we did with Fielden? (He was once good)

Look at the likes of LMS? Sam Burgess? Luke Burgess? Even Ferriol?

I think it's more likely to get a cracking UK signing than Aus.

all 4 of those would be excellent additions but are they the enforcer prop we are looking for?

LMS is a great player but i wouldnt consider him an enforcer, same with Luke Burgess. Sam Burgess could be but he seems to be going backwards at the moment. Ferriol certainly is but hasnt he just signed a contract? plus would he want to play in england permanantly?

No they aren't the enforcer we are looking for but they are all quality players.

Sam Burgess is a great player but at the moment he is playing in a struggling Bradford side and being moved from position to position each week. i think he is relied upon by Bradford to get through a lot of work and be their main man. Give the guy some stability and take some pressure off him he would be a world class player IMO.

LMS is brilliant and we should really be pushing to get him signed up for 2011. I don't rate Luke Burgess as highly as others but he is still a good player, plays under his brothers shadow a bit. I am pretty sure you are right when you say Ferriol signed an extension with Catalans, he would do really well at Wigan but would look even better with a world class prop to start along side

Who's LMS?

Given time I think Sam Burgess could be a cracking enforcer prop.

Maybe if he put on a little weight to add a bot more physicality to his game.

Remember a few years back when he repeatedly hammered Moi Moi? Who would have thought it!
That is the kind of enforcement our team would buzz off.

My choice of an enforcer and a player who can play prop as well as 2nd row is Jamal Fakir.
Also trouble is that he is regularly out due to injury, like now!
Might be worth taking a punt on as he won't be on a fortune at Catalans.

On the subject of Pryce, I think he will and should get another season. When signing him it was said that he was for very long term. Under that time frame I do think he'll come good. Stick with him!

typo, i meant MLS

www.leaguehq.com.au/news/lhqnews ... 85764.html could we recruit another to our bad lads army??

www.leaguehq.com.au/news/lhqnews ... 85764.html could we recruit another to our bad lads army??

Then no.

He's playing well in all those positions and atm, he's only playing SR & LF, and he's looking world class in some games aswell. Lynch is the one relied upon to get through alot of work.

He's already over 17 stone, put much more on and you would limit his speed and ability.

He's over 18 stone already is Burgess and he's already lost some of his mobilty and agilty in my opnion after being bulked up to play prop this season. Prop isn't his best position and in my books waste his best asset which is his wide running.

Who's LMS?