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| Have to admit I missed the Dupree incident it's an odd one my gut says he will get. ban but we shall see
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| [list=[list[/list:u[/list Quote ="moto748"Does every entrant into the Halliwell Jones need to get checked out by a sniffer dog, or just the away fans?
Never experienced this at a match before.'"
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We had a new security firm on the gates this year, bit over zealous but we had a load of scrotes the last 2 seasons with smoke bombs, I got a full pat down the first 4 home games, despite being a boring looking mid 40s bloke
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| Quote ="Big Steve"The big positive to come out of that game is it gives us 100% focus on our discipline and start.'"
I agree with this. In fact I'm more confident about next week now that I would have been had we drilled them fifty nil.
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| Our discipline is generally ok.
We lost the pen count 11-4 because we were away from home.
The pen count won't be much different between the teams at Wembley.
Usually we win the pen count at home and lose it away from home.
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"[list=[list[/list:u[/listPyro dogs
We had a new security firm on the gates this year, bit over zealous but we had a load of scrotes the last 2 seasons with smoke bombs, I got a full pat down the first 4 home games, despite being a boring looking mid 40s bloke'"
Thanks. That never occurred to me, tbh.
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| Quote ="Father Ted"Our discipline is generally ok.
We lost the pen count 11-4 because we were away from home.
The pen count won't be much different between the teams at Wembley.
Usually we win the pen count at home and lose it away from home.'"
You're right to some extent, Ted, but I thought our discipline was poor yesterday. Home team advantage of double might be expected but that penalty count was almost 3 times that of the home side. We were a little sloppy and, as Peet said, lazy in our application yesterday and I think that was reflected in the discipline. Too many avoidable errors and penalties.
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| Nobody’s mentioned the Tai tackle, Walters and Ellis got a ban for less.
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| Quote ="Stu M"I think Dupree may be ok. There’s an argument to say he was trying to get up quickly.
Warrington will feel confident after yesterday though. There’s a lot more of their players to come back into that team than there is for Wigan.'"
I think that Warrington were confident before yesterday Stu. Who have you put your money on next week?
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| Quote ="Zig"Nobody’s mentioned the Tai tackle, Walters and Ellis got a ban for less.'"
Drinkwater was probably worse Zig. The disciplinary will be interesting. I'm hoping they go lenient across the board or the final could be severely impacted.
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| Quote ="Phuzzy"True Stu, but the counter argument is that a lot more of their players didn't have one eye on Wembley and also didn't have anything to lose. It was interesting that we won that game only playing for 15 mins or so and that Warrington never broke us down and could only score through kicks. If we'd been playing a mid table side, say Salford or Huddersfield, and won like yesterday I doubt anyone would have any comments other than "one eye on Wembley".
The narrative was changed because of the opponents and the young kids playing but it's not the first time a group of kids have put in a good performance. It won't have much bearing on the final.
Having said that it will definitely have a feel good factor for Wire but equally it will focus the minds of Wigan in a similar way to Hull KR a few weeks ago or, indeed, the semi final loss last year.
My main concern is more about the potential bans. We have definitely lost our kicker who is in good form and that's a blow. I hope you're right regarding Dupree but at least we have cover there. A bigger worry though is O'Neil. It was a nothing push and in other times it wouldn't warrant so much as a mention. Unfortunately we're no longer in "other times" and we've seen sanctions for this sort of incident before. Not convinced it's worthy of a ban but you just never know.'"
If O’Neill is banned then Musgrove will face suspension as well. Absolutely nothing in either of those tackles.
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"[list=[list[/list:u[/listPyro dogs
We had a new security firm on the gates this year, bit over zealous but we had a load of scrotes the last 2 seasons with smoke bombs, I got a full pat down the first 4 home games, despite being a boring looking mid 40s bloke'"
Did you have to pay extra for that mate?
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| Quote ="Phuzzy"Drinkwater was probably worse Zig. The disciplinary will be interesting. I'm hoping they go lenient across the board or the final could be severely impacted.'"
Ok but somebody will be sat in the stands if they continue to apply the laws fairly however, I agree that it would be better for the MRP to apply some common sense. By the way, when Keighran was hit he wasn’t falling.
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| Quote ="Zig"If O’Neill is banned then Musgrove will face suspension as well. Absolutely nothing in either of those tackles.'"
You would hope so Zig but Williams copped a ban last week for something not too dissimilar. That said the Drinkwater high shot is not dissimilar to those Ellis and Walters were banned for too so hopefully sense will prevail.
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| Quote ="Big Steve"Powell was holding Dupree down in the tackle, Dupree was trying to get up, he gets pulled forward and makes head contact. Nothing in it if you look at the full picture.'"
I don’t think Dupree will get a ban…but to suggest Powell pulled him onto his head suggests Trump levels of awareness.
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| Both clubs should appeal to the disciplinary panel before they sit and just tell them to call it quits on all the bans. Fines all around
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| Quote ="Captain Hook"I don’t think Dupree will get a ban…but to suggest Powell pulled him onto his head suggests Trump levels of awareness.'"
It should have been six again to Wigan, Powell was interfering at the PTB.
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| Quote ="Cherry_Warrior"Both clubs should appeal to the disciplinary panel before they sit and just tell them to call it quits on all the bans. Fines all around
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Nice try, but i think Keighran’s head shot should be punished…in fact I think Peet virtually invited them to do so.
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| Quote ="Zig"It should have been six again to Wigan, Powell was interfering at the PTB.'"
Agree he was messing around, not sure that gives a free pass to “summary justice” though.
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| Quote ="Captain Hook"Agree he was messing around, not sure that gives a free pass to “summary justice” though.'"
I agree but I don’t think there was anything in it. If he had butted Pow then his reaction would have been totally different. The game has become far too soft and spectators are now using a microscope to examine any incident. Rugby League has always been a tough sport but there are people in the game who are unnecessarily trying to water it down.
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| Quote ="Big Steve"Powell was holding Dupree down in the tackle, Dupree was trying to get up, he gets pulled forward and makes head contact. Nothing in it if you look at the full picture.'"
unbelievable, he's only been at Wire two minutes and he's already turned into a cheat
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| Keighran and Dupree both banned on Grade D charges.
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| Quote ="MadDogg"Keighran and Dupree both banned on Grade D charges.'"
It’s a fix !!!
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| A shame to lose Dupree's impact off the bench but I don't think that will sway the result. Our right side defence stands out like a sore thumb now though with a mix of inexperience in Nsemba and Eckersley and two players in French and Miski who perhaps aren't renowned for their defensive abilities.
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| Brutal honesty from Peet immediately post-match but he may well have been advised to hold his fire. His comments didn't exactly help Keighran. I note that he has since back-tracked and apologised but when the offending players coach says the player has previous form and it was a bad tackle, well it strengthens the RFL case.
I see that Wigan are going to appeal it...Not just Saints that appeal then
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| Quote ="Stu M"Brutal honesty from Peet immediately post-match but he may well have been advised to hold his fire. His comments didn't exactly help Keighran. I note that he has since back-tracked and apologised but when the offending players coach says the player has previous form and it was a bad tackle, well it strengthens the RFL case.
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I personally was surprised by Peet's backtrack - yes the player was falling but it was still reckless with no attempt to wrap the arms. I have no issue with either of the bans.
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