So it wasn't a head high tackle then?

I would say it was 2 players comitted to the play, which should be applauded not penalised.

Phelps on Wellens on Thursday with the last play of the game was just as bad if not filled with more intent on Phelps part, did not see many complaints in here.

So you don't think it was a head high tackle?


Yes or no will do.

Clearly not, no.

For someone who claims to be such an intellect i thought you would have worked that one out.


Are youn still looking forward to reviving all the posts about how poor us mortals think Noble is at the end of the season?

Yes or no will do.

I've always stuck up for Noble but now i think it's time for him to move on. He has done a terrific job here, keeping us in the Super League and almost getting us to the Grand Final etc. But i think we have to get rid for us to develop as a team and a club. IMO our defence has been poor everytime we have taken the field since Millward took over, with the odd exception of course (Leeds in the CC etc), and we need to add another dimension to our attacking play. Im sick of Wigan being the only team in SL to have no runners trying to confuse the opposition.

Well......thats my two cents anyway

I don't claim to have anything. It's only you who keeps banging on about me being "such an intellect" (whatever that means). Indeed now it appears you think I am some kind of Deity..........

I personally don't think BN will be here by the end of the season, but if he is I still think we will perform well in the playoffs.


This result hurt us a lot more than the Stains one though.

I chuffing love you Taylor.

He's spot on.

I would never join a campaign for a man who has put so much effort in to lose his job, even if it is the right thing for the club.

Noble's commitment to the cause cannot be questioned. I respect him for that and have a level of sympathy for the bloke.

No it is due to your lack of ability to debate yet try to degrade posters validity who do not follow your view by picking up on there spelling, or taking the moral high ground on education etc etc etc. Your track record speaks for itself.

If you are going to post on an internet forum, at least do people the courtesy of checking your spelling/grammar, especially when you are trying to put the other person down (as is your wont).

As for my "lack of ability to debate" - it's hard to debate with someone when you have to first attempt to translate their words into English before you can understand them.


Btw you have made another grammatical error in your personal attack above

Point proven.

That you cannot spell, yet insist on trying to be "Terry Ten men" on an internet forum?


Yes I think it has.

What has my ability to spell got to do with my opinion of a rugby game?

I agree with that.

Have a look at the pre-season predictions thread on the VT, you will find a lot of neutrals putting Wigan as the nearest challengers to Leeds/Stains.

HTH

I dont think the majority of fans would question Nobles commitment, the guy has a great attitude and has a lot of friends in the game, but he is simply out of his depth, i hope Lenegan deals with this swifty and in the correct manner.

I would agree, I hope it is done correctly and acknowledges the work Noble has done for the club in relation to rebuilding the backroom / Orrell etc.

However, I now see no option but to part ways.

Strongly disagree with this. Would credit him from bringing us a level of competance prior to this season but in truth i think now Trent Barrett should get more of that credit than Brian Noble.

One of the first things he did was identify the need for a facility like Orrell. Whilst it was DW that funded it, it was Nobles project.

I think any coach worth there salt would have identified this to be honest, all the other clubs have a facility, maybe not as impressive but just as effective if not more so, from what i have seen the facility looks very impressive and expensive but much of it is non functional and asthetically pleasing to the untrained eye but finances could of and should have been spent in other more direct areas.

Regarding the backroom staff, his key appointment in my opinion is failing.

There is no other option but to say Thank You Brian (in a nice way) and appoint an experienced Aussie coach with a top class backroom staff.

Nathan Brown was struggling in the NRL at the Dragons but has been a revealation at Hudds and all the coaches that have pops at his teams style of play is just an excuse for their lack of ideas and the fact he has brought the NRL's wrestling plays to Hudds but hey their second.

Watching around 5 NRL games every weekend has really shocked me in my judgement of how the SL is in comparison, a currently unemployed coach like Folkes or Murray would significantly improve our perfomances but if we put a temporary coach in place and waited until the end of the season and offered a coach of the calibre of Bellamy a contract it would be worth waiting for.

Much of it is non-functional? What do you mean by that?

Given that the finances to develop Orrell came out of DW's back pocket (and then purchased by IL as part of the whole deal) I'm not sure how you expect these 'finances' to have been spent in more direct areas?

The field is functional, not sure much of the gym is, although i have to say never been to it, just from what i have seen on the internet large sections of the gym seem to be very expensive bits of kit that must gather dust for much of the season.

I maybe hold that down to the decisions made by Mick Foreshaw, but at the end of the day BN appointed him as his key advisor in this capacity.

Give over

I think you're perhaps clutching at straws there and I'd also suggest that the gym and entire facility at Orrell is used extensively by the club and will be for many years to come.