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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"
- Burrow- too much of a short ar*e to play the game. How someone like Toni Williams is to get down to the poison dwarfs level is beyond me.'"
Surely the opposite applies aswell? how is a short like Burrow supposed to tackle a monster like Williams? If Burrow is expected to Tackle Williams legally, surely we can expect Williams to tackle Burrow legally?
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| Quote ="Bill Sonny"why can't they come to their bloody senses and play this match AFTER the respective grand finals?'"
Because there is a chance, a decent chance, probably not a more than 50% chance but a decent chance, that the SL team would win and there would be no excuses left.
Unless of course they took the Sticky Stuart tack and just blamed the ref. Thats always an option.
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| Quote ="Gary High"My point is that until we play the NRL winners at THEIR PEAK & IN THEIR OWN BACK YARD there is no comparison. Simply showing glimpses isn't good enough. Ill put it this way, after watching Wigan pre season and against Huddersfield did you see last week performance coming? No, because pre season is for blowing off the cobwebs and getting your timing right and fitness levels.
Manly were not at their best because they had not had the same prep Leeds has had. Peter Peters admitted Manly's prep had been woeful. Lets play the WCC at the back end of October and alternate the venue then there can be no doubts as to who is the best team in thee World - Lets face it, anybody who thinks Leeds are the best team in the world are kidding themselves. Yes, Leeds earned the right to play in this game by winning the comp last year but even with my red & white tinted glasses on I can catagorically state that Warrington were the best team in the comp last year. We caught them on an off day in the CC and you did the same in the play-offs. Some might even say Warrington choked on both occasions but they were still the best team in the comp.
Leeds deservedly won the WCC as they were the better team on the night, but it doesn't mean they are the best team in the world. Australia are the best team in the world by a country mile...it doesn't mean they win everything.
Not bitterness GCM just fact.'" Why do we have to play them at their peak in their own back yard? If the difference was that big then they should play us at our peak (which lets face it, Leeds arent at their peak now, they may be closer but they clearly arent at their peak, we will play better this year) in our back yard. When they do they lose fairly often.
If Manly want to be the best club side in the world rather than the 2nd then they need to prepare properly. If they cant/dont it is because they arent good enough.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"
If Manly want to be the best club side in the world rather than the 2nd then they need to prepare properly. If they cant/dont it is because they arent good enough.'"
Totally agree.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Surely the opposite applies aswell? how is a short like Burrow supposed to tackle a monster like Williams? If Burrow is expected to Tackle Williams legally, surely we can expect Williams to tackle Burrow legally?'"
Your comparison doesn't stack up.
It's easy for Burrow to reach the legs of Williams.
Much harder the other way around.
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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"Your comparison doesn't stack up.
It's easy for Burrow to reach the legs of Williams.
Much harder the other way around.'"
But its harder for Burrow to tackle a player of William size because of his size. If Williams wants the advantages of being so big then he has to take the disadvantages aswell.
If Williams tackle technique was good enough he wouldnt hit Burrow high.
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| Taking your argument to it's extreme, why don't we get a 3ft dwarf to pay scrum half?
Virtually no-one would be able to tackle them as anything above 2ft would be considered a high shot.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"But its harder for Burrow to tackle a player of William size because of his size.'"
Not true, if he tackles the legs.
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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"Taking your argument to it's extreme, why don't we get a 3ft dwarf to pay scrum half?
Virtually no-one would be able to tackle them as anything above 2ft would be considered a high shot.'" and if you did he would just be ran at and ran over all day long. Its part of the tactics of the game.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Not true, if he tackles the legs.'"
There speaks someone who has never tackled someone of Tony Williams size.
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| Quote ="THE HINDLEY WARRIOR"
Watkins and Hardaker against Lyon and Matai? No contest!'"
Spot on mate , Watkins and Hardaker by plenty
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| Quote ="chapylad"To some of you Wigan fans slagging off Leeds for getting away with the odd forward pass.
Maybe you should look no further than a possible 3 yellow cards if not a sending off for Manly.
Also not so sure there was a ball steal which gifted them their first try.
Bad decisions for both sides.
And as for Leeds getting away with forward passes I think you should think back to how you won the CC.'"
Exactly mate, i dont think either pass for watkins and bishops tries were forwad, when i first saw bishops try i thought it was suspect, but seeing replays it was fine.
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| Quote ="THE HINDLEY WARRIOR"I think that Manly will have the edge, even though they may be a bit under-done.
Like most top NRL sides, not only do they have a strong spine but they also have class and strength out wide, particularly in the Centres.
Watkins and Hardaker against Lyon and Matai? No contest!'"
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| Quote ="[Gareth"Yes, but Leeds have Carl Ablett!'"
And with his 36 tackles it's just as well we did.
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| Now that the dust has settled,(or was it the sand ) I have to say it was worth getting up at 6:45 on a Saturday morn to watch the NRL team I hate get clattered by one of the SL teams I hate.
A win to the whinos was the lesser of two evils
Seeing JJB on crutches was a bonus.
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| Quote ="Fylde Coast Warrior"manly for me to win, can't see past them in this one, and it would knock leeds down a peg or two, met too many arrogant fans of theirs lately. Honest opinion is manly by 16, they're pack is very strong and they have the outside backs to really make leeds suffer.'"
How ironic (if not a little amusing) that a bunch of fans who rejoice in the slogan 'Forever in our shadow' have the gall to accuse others of arrogance.
Manly by 16? Only a 30 point swing there. Have you thought of offering your services to Phil Clarke as a stand-in in case his Margin Meter breaks down?
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| Quote ="Bourbon Rat"
Seeing JJB on crutches was a bonus.'"
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| That's good coming from a keyboard hero
All I did was state an honest opinion.
I have no respect or admiration for the hairy wonder that you seem to idolise
As many have stated when,(IF) the winners of the SL comp ever come to Australia to play the WCC they may find it a tad warm for their liking even in October.Just as Manly found their trip akin to visiting a frozen hell hole
BTW - I was born in Wigan but have lived in Melborne since 1965
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| Quote ="Bourbon Rat"
I have no respect or admiration for the hairy wonder that you seem to idolise
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Not respecting someone and being pleased to see someone on crutches are two very different things.
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As many have stated when,(IF) the winners of the SL comp ever come to Australia to play the WCC they may find it a tad warm for their liking even in October.Just as Manly found their trip akin to visiting a frozen hell hole
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Last night was no colder than many a Sydney winters evening.
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| Quote ="Bourbon Rat"
Seeing JJB on crutches was a bonus.'"
There aren't that many complete, utter and total toss-pots on these boards, but you certainly qualify.
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There's a pretty big difference between Damo's (often ill-judged and occasionally entertaining) satire and your ignorant malevolence.
As far as I know, and unlike some complete, utter and total tosspots he's never rejoiced at seeing a player injured. There's simply no wit in that at all.
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There's a pretty big difference between Damo's (often ill-judged and occasionally entertaining) satire and your ignorant malevolence.
As far as I know, and unlike some complete, utter and total tosspots he's never rejoiced at seeing a player injured. There's simply no wit in that at all.
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| Quote ="JWarriors"If the world club challenge was played on a level playing field then the Australian side would nearly always win.
Manly are a much better side than Leeds, but due to the handicap of the aussies not having match practice, it gives Leeds a chance.'"
Yes Manly "a much better side" Rhinos are World Champs - Wigan ? well you lost last year did you not ?
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| Quote ="Bourbon Rat"Now that the dust has settled,(or was it the sand
) I have to say it was worth getting up at 6:45 on a Saturday morn to watch the NRL team I hate get clattered by one of the SL teams I hate.
A win to the whinos was the lesser of two evils
Seeing JJB on crutches was a bonus.'"
Quite a pathetic statement you idiot For you to be pleased about seeing someone on crutches says loads about you ! Try playing the game idiot !!
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| I think it's fair to say this has definitely run it's course now. Amazing how certain Leeds fans have felt incredibly brave the last 24 hours to venture on here, but obviously didn't feel brave last week?
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