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| Quote ="WELTON VILLAGER"Get real pal ,
Mr Hock is one real fruit case , and you know it .'"
you met Mr Hock then? Just because he's a hard nut on the field, doesn't mean he's a "fruit case"as you call it.
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| What as our game become?
The ban for the gouge fine no arguments with that he got off lightly but 1 game ban for a punch and it's not the first time this season it's rugby league not football
I miss the days they used to sort it out with a scrap then get on with the game you wont be able to tackle next......oh wait
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| I just think Hock is an idiot and will he ever learn?
Many will not agree including my son but if I was in charge I would get rid, I do not want people like him in my Wigan team. He is a good player but being a better influence is more important. He is only back for about 6 matches and cannot control himself, therefore get rid as he does not deserve the support he has had already.
In my opinion he has had a chance that rarely happens in other situations and has now abused the chance. Basically no more excuses grow up and be a normal person if not disappear.
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| 5 matches - DISGRACE TO THE, OR ANY, SPORT -
If, he did go for it - FOOL
Gouging should be sign die - end of
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| Quote ="golborne64"Gouging should be sign die - end of
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How's this going to help?
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| no comment
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| If you're going to rant at least try to make it coherent so we can all have a good laugh.
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| That's fair for me, enough to make sure 2011 is over for Mr Hock, i bet this is what they thought, if there had been a potential 6 games left i think he'd have got that, common sense, job done, move on.
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| Quote ="Wiganpieman"I thought eye gouging or a poke in the eye often hurts yet if you look at the clip Harrison was not in any pain or even knew he had a finger across hes eye. why? Because no finger was inserted in Harrison's eye come on the first thing anyone does when any pain in the eye is to put your hand up to your eye to feel the amount of damage done and Harrison knows that Hock did not hurt him one bit in the eye department. I am all for banning on eye gouging but come on this boils down to an agenda towards Hock lets be fair,'"
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| Quote ="onedego"you met Mr Hock then? Just because he's a hard nut on the field, doesn't mean he's a "fruit case"as you call it.'"
No pal ,guess i aint met the guy . I guess you would,nt be so keen on him ,if you worn different colour specs .
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| frekkkkinnn dicked,,,,,with cross out n fielden n mossop n now hock we look pretty thin n the pack...cant see us beating the wire at old trafford with coley n lima.....???????????????
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| Quote ="Wiganpieman"I thought eye gouging or a poke in the eye often hurts yet if you look at the clip Harrison was not in any pain or even knew he had a finger across hes eye. why? Because no finger was inserted in Harrison's eye come on the first thing anyone does when any pain in the eye is to put your hand up to your eye to feel the amount of damage done and Harrison knows that Hock did not hurt him one bit in the eye department. I am all for banning on eye gouging but come on this boils down to an agenda towards Hock lets be fair,'"
I don't feel the average non Wigan fan has an agenda against Hock - he is seen for what he is and that is a good player with a discipline problem both on and off the field.
I would have in my squad if he could curb the thuggery on-field and guarantee him staying 'clean' off-field.
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| Putting this particular incident slightly aside, I really think the sentencing guidelines for a deliberate gouge are too lenient. Hock has been sentenced according to those guidelines, and the panel have taken a view that it wasn't deliberate, but [uif[/u (hypothetical) somebody really is guilty of a deliberate gouge, is 8 matches really enough?
Fishta, I see what you're getting at with the drawing of parallels between biting and gouging, but in all honesty, a bite with a gumshield in would have to be pretty impressive to run a serious risk of infection. Teeth can, as you say, do more damage than fingers, but the difference is in the targetting of those fingers. Gouging somebody's arm would do no damage, it's the choice to target the eyes, which are both vulnerable and important, that makes gouging the worse offence. While both [ucould[/u cause very serious injury, I would suggest that a serios injury is much more likely from the gouge. I know somebody who lost the sight in one eye from a gouge on a rugby field, I don't know of anyone who has been permanently damaged by a human bite.
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| I think if it was earlier on in the season he would have probably got the full whack; uncanny how the 5 matches is the maximum we will play this year???
Let off lightly IMO, I just hope he screws his head back on for next year.
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| Gosh i hope i'm never in the dock with half of you lot, it seems hanging is far too good for Gaz Hock!!
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| Quote ="Sunshine state"Gosh i hope i'm never in the dock with half of you lot, it seems hanging is far too good for Gaz Hock!!'"
You may have to explain to some of the posters that the "dock" is used in a court of law and has no conection to the Jeremy Kyle show. You may have to post after 10.30am so you do not clash with said show.
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| Very fortunate in response to the gouging. His excuse that he was looking for a lever to stand up on is a little far fetched.
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| Don't know if it's already been mentioned but Liam Prescott of London Skolars got a four-match ban last season for gouging. I remember the VT going into meltdown then aswell as he... oh hang on.
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| must be his good looks and previous good behaviour taken in to account
sindie would have been to good no time for druggies
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| More trouble than he is worth, the guys a complete numb head who will no doubt continue to give away stupid penaltys in the future, we where a better side without him and should have stayed that way
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| Quote ="Wiganpieman"I thought eye gouging or a poke in the eye often hurts yet if you look at the clip Harrison was not in any pain or even knew he had a finger across hes eye. why? Because no finger was inserted in Harrison's eye come on the first thing anyone does when any pain in the eye is to put your hand up to your eye to feel the amount of damage done and Harrison knows that Hock did not hurt him one bit in the eye department. I am all for banning on eye gouging but come on this boils down to an agenda towards Hock lets be fair,'"
not to be confused with WPM.
guilty of gouging...he pleaded guilty?
got a ban.....end of.
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| They were always going to end his season as minimum punishment imo. As for the evidence given it sounds a bit ropey to say the least but hes been half let off by not having the full ban so he has to now sort himself and get ready for next season and come back with his rugby head on. I hope he didnt intentionally gouge Harrison because if he did i fear his temperament will get him banned again very quickly.
The biggest shame (for Wigan fans anyway) was he was starting to look good again, making decent runs and offloads. If Hock doesnt come back and win some silverware (with him playing obviously) he has only got himself to blame.
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| Quote ="-Tracie-"I think if it was earlier on in the season he would have probably got the full whack; uncanny how the 5 matches is the maximum we will play this year???
Let off lightly IMO, I just hope he screws his head back on for next year.'"
I said the same thing, if there had been 6 or 7 games left i think they'd have given a 6 or 7 game ban. Despite all the tub thumping from most i think it's a fair ban, ends his season and if you make the final ruins his day a little.
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| He did get the full whack. There's a precedent, four matches for gouging. If he'd have got a longer ban it would have shown there are double standards within the game.
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| Quote ="Catalancs"Don't know if it's already been mentioned but Liam Prescott of London Skolars got a four-match ban last season for gouging. I remember the VT going into meltdown then aswell as he... oh hang on.'"
Just like the outcry with Mick Govin oh no not then either!!
Said above dont htink he ahad the sole intention of gouging but once his fingers found themselves there he had a go. Was stupid and 4 matches maybe 5 should have been the punishment (but 4 being the standard set!) The game for the punch is a joke for me but they couldnt have him returning for the Grand Final!
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