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| Quote ="NickyKiss"I wouldn't reject sensible signings or signings with some sort of rational behind them but this simply hasn't.
The only reason I could see for signing him would be experience yet we've ensured we've got that in the centres by signing Carmont up. We have 12 months to now bed somebody into that right sided centre position whilst searching the world for Carmonts replacement.
Signing Senior would add little to the side in the short term and create some big problems going forward imo.'"
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| So some are saying we should sign a 34 year old to cover a position where we have a 33 year old. That's before we even consider Senior's nosediving form over the last few years.
Bonkers doesn't even come close.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"I wouldn't reject sensible signings or signings with some sort of rational behind them but this simply hasn't.
The only reason I could see for signing him would be experience yet we've ensured we've got that in the centres by signing Carmont up. We have 12 months to now bed somebody into that right sided centre position whilst searching the world for Carmonts replacement.
Signing Senior would add little to the side in the short term and create some big problems going forward imo.'"
Big problems? Such as? Look at our personnel for the centres.
Acton-lots of potential but who knows how he'll develop it all honestly, going off the development our of youth he's 2-3 seasons away
Marsh-Difficult to see as a centre, possibly just not good enough in this role
Tomkins-week after week people on here scream about how he's never a centre
Carmont-excellent,but will pick up knocks etc
Is adding another top British centre to this so bad? will it really cos big problems? IMO defo not, it will add depth, experience and expertise to a position which is difficult to recruit.
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| If wigan had been interested in him wouldn't they have gone for him before he signed for Crusaders 3 weeks ago? Probably because he isn't good enough any more.
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| Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"So some are saying we should sign a 34 year old to cover a position where we have a 33 year old. That's before we even consider Senior's nosediving form over the last few years.
Bonkers doesn't even come close.'"
far more to consider than just age, many top players are over 30.
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"Big problems? Such as? .'"
Trying to replace him and Carmont at the same time(unless your seriously suggesting we gave him a 2 year deal like he had at Crusaders).
It would be a nightmare and not worth the trouble. We can give Charnley a run there(a position I think he'd excel in), continue to play Joel there, give Marsh some more games in the position or sign a younger and better option then Senior.
All those options will set the side up miles better in the long term.
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"far more to consider than just age, many top players are over 30.'"
Yes but at the beginning of next season he'll be 35! If it was the same situation 3 or 4 years ago then maybe. He was a shadow of his former self this season and then he picked up a serious, season ending injury. It would be a nothing signing and I'm flabbergasted people are even toying with the idea tbh.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"I wouldn't reject sensible signings or signings with some sort of rational behind them but this simply hasn't.
The only reason I could see for signing him would be experience yet we've ensured we've got that in the centres by signing Carmont up. We have 12 months to now bed somebody into that right sided centre position whilst searching the world for Carmonts replacement.
Signing Senior would add little to the side in the short term and create some big problems going forward imo.'"
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| Quote ="WARRIORCRAIG"Yes but at the beginning of next season he'll be 35! If it was the same situation 3 or 4 years ago then maybe. He was a shadow of his former self this season and then he picked up a serious, season ending injury. It would be a nothing signing and I'm flabbergasted people are even toying with the idea tbh.'"
He was still one of the top centres before his injury. you seem fixated on his age.
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"far more to consider than just age, many top players are over 30.'"
Which its why I also mentioned how poor he's been the last couple of seasons. Well past he sell-by date.
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| go on his twitter, some of the comments he's re-tweeted are priceless!!
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| Seriously!! The cru board has well and truly stitched all their players up by not telling them and I feel for them I do but we do not need nor should want to sign Senior, I hope he's Widnes bound but tbh from his twitter I think he'll leave the sport completely and who can blame him
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| Well I have justified why I think for the right price he would be a good option. We all are entitled to our own opinion. regardless of such I have total faith in our current management set-up so whatever options they take I'm happy with.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"He's 34 years of age
His performences have been on the wane for a couple of years
His form this season has been poor
He's out with a cruciate Knee injury at the minute that some players 10 years his junior struggle to come back from
He's a tool
Besides that he's perfect
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Add on the fact that he's admitted in his interview today that his knee rehab isn't going well.
And he'd be bringing Joel's development as a centre to a complete standstill.
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| Why would you feel sorry for him? Hes undeserving of your pity.
Tbh though id have him as a coach solely to bring Joel along as a centre hes the mould we want him to be in
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| This is a debate I would not have expected to see take place on a Wigan forum???
I'm just going to point out a few facts.....
Wigan are better than Leeds.
Leeds didn't want to keep Senior.
Leeds fans didn't protest the decision.
I would suggest that looking at the evidence, Wigan would not want to sign Senior.
....Mind you, you took Ben Cross - so maybe.
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"He was still one of the top centres before his injury. you seem fixated on his age.'"
Considering every post I've made on this topic I've mentioned his dwindling performances as well as his age means I'm certainly not fixated with his age. Just dont think hes the sort of player Wigan should/will go for.
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| A much more realistic level for him to aim at:
[urlhttp://www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=rleague/11/07/28/RUGBYL_Wakefield_Nightlead.html&BID=480[/url
Quote Wakefield coach John Kear is keen to offer former Great Britain centre Keith Senior the chance to continue his Super League career with the Wildcats...'"
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Good to see Wakey using the 3 year licence to build for the future.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Good to see Wakey using the 3 year licence to build for the future.'"
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| Good thread this.
Those that are wanting Keith to sign for you are clearly deluded.
Those that want him to 'teach' the kids/Joel, i hope this happens. Teach them how not to defend and you'll be leaking a lot of tries.
This guy speaks sense, apart from the Wigan are better than Leeds, it should say better coached than Leeds
Quote ="mmcdonagh"This is a debate I would not have expected to see take place on a Wigan forum???
I'm just going to point out a few facts.....
Wigan are better than Leeds.
Leeds didn't want to keep Senior.
Leeds fans didn't protest the decision.
I would suggest that looking at the evidence, Wigan would not want to sign Senior.
....Mind you, you took Ben Cross - so maybe.'"
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| No. Wigan are better than Leeds. Leeds' coaching is not the only failing.
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| He said on twitter he went to his specialist today and needs another op. Wakey is about the best he can hope for if Blackbrook don't want him!
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