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| He gets fatter every week, madge would have him in the reserves or bench warming before shipping him out to Salford
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| If we wanted solomona we would have him if we had made an offer he would never have picked wire over the mighty wigan
Btw im joking but still i wouldnt want him.
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| Quote ="hula89"If we wanted solomona we would have him if we had made an offer he would never have picked wire over the mighty wigan
Btw im joking but still i wouldnt want him.'"
yep, just like we say we wouldnt want sam.
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| Quote ="THEOriginalWire"yep, just like we say we wouldnt want sam.
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Sam is in a completeliy differnt league to Solomona.
How many young british quality fullbacks do you have? Of course you would want Sam.
Why would we want a overseas, overweight, old second row with the only unique part of his game his offload, when we have Ryan Hoffman, Harrison Hansen, Liam Farrell, Joel Tomkins, Chris Tuson and soon to be Gaz Hock at second row? Of all the players I would want from the Wire squad he would be the last on the list.
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| Quote ="19 Leagues"Sam is in a completeliy differnt league to Solomona.
How many young british quality fullbacks do you have? Of course you would want Sam.
Why would we want a overseas, overweight, old second row with the only unique part of his game his offload, when we have Ryan Hoffman, Harrison Hansen, Liam Farrell, Joel Tomkins, Chris Tuson and soon to be Gaz Hock at second row? Of all the players I would want from the Wire squad he would be the last on the list.'"
solomona was part of a pack that ran ragged over yours on friday simple. sam seemed to respect the beast, maybe you should too. its a shame that NONE of your forwards can play rugby beyond just a 10 yard drive, ill stick to Sol ta.
Overweight?? Lima is shorted and heavier than Solomona. so you can shove your overseas and overweight.
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| Quote ="THEOriginalWire"solomona was part of a pack that ran ragged over yours on friday simple. sam seemed to respect the beast, maybe you should too. its a shame that NONE of your forwards can play rugby beyond just a 10 yard drive, ill stick to Sol ta.
Overweight?? Lima is shorted and heavier than Solomona. so you can shove your overseas and overweight.'"
Have you even seen Lima? People are actually shocked at how small he is.
So what if Solomona was a part of a pack that 'ragged' ours on Friday, Huddersfield have 'ragged' yours plenty of times, does that mean that Darrell Griffin/Keith Mason are better than Adrian Morley/Gareth Carvell? Luke Robinson better than Michael Monagan?
Our forwards have been doing a fine job the past 15 months or so thank you very much, so you can 'stick to sol' and we'll stick with ours.
It makes me laugh how you beat us once and suddenly all your players are the best in the world and everybody should want them in their team. All I'm saying is he is not right for Wigan, and you get so upset with this you put on a chavvy attack on our forwards, who by the way other than last Friday are doing a fantastic job. No-wonder nobody likes Warrington fans, the majority of you are idiots.
Thats the last i'll say on this matter because your punctuation and spelling makes me feel like I am arguing with a 12 year old boy. (Which I probably am)
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| Quote ="19 Leagues"
It makes me laugh how you beat us once (Which I probably am)'"
now im not denying the fact ther last year you were top of the league and won the grand final. however recent history suggests we have beat you more than once. your whole post was let down by that one simple, incorrect remark
if im honest i would have rather won the hubcap and gf than beat you in the past 2 games we have played ( not including preseason) but you made the point
it was wrong, sorry
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| Quote ="THEOriginalWire"solomona was part of a pack that ran ragged over yours on friday simple. sam seemed to respect the beast, maybe you should too. its a shame that NONE of your forwards can play rugby beyond just a 10 yard drive, ill stick to Sol ta.
Overweight?? Lima is shorted and heavier than Solomona. so you can shove your overseas and overweight.'"
Ill have a pint of what you have been on please...
Big well done to the Wire pack, as we have all admitted we wasnt at the races Friday night and you took advantage but to say none of our forwards can play rugby beyond a 10 yard drive is laughable.
Every team has off games, look at your lot against Hudds at Cardiff. Who would have thought Keith Mason could run Adrian Morley ragged? Must mean Mason is class, and Hudds wouldnt swap any and you all need to respect Mason, Griffin and Crabtree eh?
Ill happily stick to Sean O'Loughlin at 13, who saying he can only do 10 metre drives was the top try assisting forward last year in Super League, or Joel Tomkins who was the top scoring forward with 13 I think it was. In fact I wouldnt swap our younger guys like Liam Farrell or Lee Mossop for Solomona either.
Yeah youve got a good pack, but you had this pack last season aswel but its when your pack can keep it up consistantly through out a league season is when you can claim everyone needs to respect it, not after 7 games.
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| Quote ="19 Leagues"Have you even seen Lima? People are actually shocked at how small he is.
So what if Solomona was a part of a pack that 'ragged' ours on Friday, Huddersfield have 'ragged' yours plenty of times, does that mean that Darrell Griffin/Keith Mason are better than Adrian Morley/Gareth Carvell? Luke Robinson better than Michael Monagan?
Our forwards have been doing a fine job the past 15 months or so thank you very much, so you can 'stick to sol' and we'll stick with ours.
It makes me laugh how you beat us once and suddenly all your players are the best in the world and everybody should want them in their team. All I'm saying is he is not right for Wigan, and you get so upset with this you put on a chavvy attack on our forwards, who by the way other than last Friday are doing a fantastic job. No-wonder nobody likes Warrington fans, the majority of you are idiots.
Thats the last i'll say on this matter because your punctuation and spelling makes me feel like I am arguing with a 12 year old boy. (Which I probably am)'"
Don't get childish fella. there was only 1 spelling mistake in that last post.
You do realise your own fans are harping on about how poor lima has been or is, where as our fans love sol.
No chavvy attack, but the fact that you called him overweight and overseas, then i proved that lima statistically is heavier than solomona, so you have to think of a terribly childish way to respond.
What makes me an idiot about what i posted, i challenged your view on solomona and because you don't like it i'm an idiot, chav, 12 year old. Note that it's you who has derailed the discussion by becoming a name calling child. Not me.
Huddersfield's forwards have ragged ours plenty of times? lets see in the past 2 years i can think of one occasion and thats this season at MM, the play-off victory was won by Danny Brough's brilliant performance on the night.
But hey, don't let me well reasoned post get in the way of your cherry and white blinkered view on the fact that anyone who post's on your board from Warrington must be a chavvy idiot.
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Ill have a pint of what you have been on please...
Big well done to the Wire pack, as we have all admitted we wasnt at the races Friday night and you took advantage but to say none of our forwards can play rugby beyond a 10 yard drive is laughable.
Every team has off games, look at your lot against Hudds at Cardiff. Who would have thought Keith Mason could run Adrian Morley ragged? Must mean Mason is class, and Hudds wouldnt swap any and you all need to respect Mason, Griffin and Crabtree eh?
Ill happily stick to Sean O'Loughlin at 13, who saying he can only do 10 metre drives was the top try assisting forward last year in Super League, or Joel Tomkins who was the top scoring forward with 13 I think it was. In fact I wouldnt swap our younger guys like Liam Farrell or Lee Mossop for Solomona either.
Yeah youve got a good pack, but you had this pack last season aswel but its when your pack can keep it up consistantly through out a league season is when you can claim everyone needs to respect it, not after 7 games.'"
I wasn't including lockers etc. in the "pack" of which i spoke, obviously lockers is a ball handling forward. By the 10 yard drives i meant the likes of lima, hoffman, coley, prescott, etc.
Now granted i don't see them week in week out, but how often is it said how good they are with ball in hand, like solomona is. Not often is it?
i wouldn't expect you to swap the likes of JT or LF either, purely because of the age value. But there is no denying solomona would add something to your pack, if you cannot admit that then you really must be biased.
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| Quote ="THEOriginalWire"Don't get childish fella. there was only 1 spelling mistake in that last post.
You do realise your own fans are harping on about how poor lima has been or is, where as our fans love sol.
No chavvy attack, but the fact that you called him overweight and overseas, then i proved that lima statistically is heavier than solomona, so you have to think of a terribly childish way to respond.
What makes me an idiot about what i posted, i challenged your view on solomona and because you don't like it i'm an idiot, chav, 12 year old. Note that it's you who has derailed the discussion by becoming a name calling child. Not me.
Huddersfield's forwards have ragged ours plenty of times? lets see in the past 2 years i can think of one occasion and thats this season at MM, the play-off victory was won by Danny Brough's brilliant performance on the night.
But hey, don't let me well reasoned post get in the way of your cherry and white blinkered view on the fact that anyone who post's on your board from Warrington must be a chavvy idiot.
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Your only argument with me seems to be that I called Solomona over weight and overseas, which he is... so i dont see your problem? Whats the point in comparing him to Lima anyway? They are two different positions, Lima is a prop and props aren known to be abit more on the heavy side (which if you ask any regular Wigan fan, Lima isnt, and what little weight he does have for a prop, is just muscle) Solomona is more like the feka/barry ward over weight as in just plain fat. And I still stand by the matter that he wouldnt last a minute in the current Wigan side with this regime.
This is definately my last say on the matter because like I said, i feel like I am arguing with a 12 year old boy. You are just coming out with irrelevant points and making yourself look like a fool.
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| Quote ="THEOriginalWire"solomona was part of a pack that ran ragged over yours on friday simple. sam seemed to respect the beast, maybe you should too. its a shame that NONE of your forwards can play rugby beyond just a 10 yard drive, ill stick to Sol ta.
Overweight?? Lima is shorted and heavier than Solomona. so you can shove your overseas and overweight.'"
Muscle weighs more than fat. HTH
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| You're right Solomana is rubbish, it's awful that he has the hands of a stand off, and throws probably the best bullet pass i've ever seen and that he draws in 4 men then somehow manages to offload the ball. We need to get on to the PFU Chairman and tell him to have a word with Solo, take a drive make 10 yards fall to the floor and play the ball.
Fat, who cares he's effective and don't try to compare him the to the fat waste of space Feka.
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| So I have finally managed to rewatch the incident, Sam has his left arm locked by Westwood and is pushing away with his right arm. Westwood lets go of the ball to throw a punch (closed fist) which connects. The next two seem to miss, however Blyth runs in with the forearm and as Westwood regains his feet he then tried to get another one in but manages to hit the back of Hodgson.
Not withstanding the initial run from Westwood ended up with his forearm in Marsh's face.
The arm lock which prevents Sam from getting up can clearly be seen in the replay @ 43:00 on the clock.
"Flailing" absolutely not, clear punching.
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| Quote ="19 Leagues"Sam is in a completeliy differnt league to Solomona.
How many young british quality fullbacks do you have? Of course you would want Sam.
Why would we want a overseas, overweight, old second row with the only unique part of his game his offload, when we have Ryan Hoffman, Harrison Hansen, Liam Farrell, Joel Tomkins, Chris Tuson and soon to be Gaz Hock at second row? Of all the players I would want from the Wire squad he would be the last on the list.'"
The same reason you wanted and raved about "fat feca "for a few seasons .Feca makes solomona look anorexic.
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| how very bitter... some people really don't handle defeat well.
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"how very bitter... some people really don't handle defeat well.'"
True, but in fairness you have had more practice...
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"TW I thought that Westwoods "attack" was no more than a push in the face (happens every game) but maybe Tomkins was unlucky to be penalised.
Perhaps Wigan should have "done a Wilkin" on the Micky Higham incident.'"
Rogues, I'll reply before this thread gets locked because of all the stupidity from both sides of the fence. The Westwood/Tomkins incident was 'nowt nor something,' and has only been highlighted because of the two personalities involved. I think the penalty went the right way because Tomkins was delaying the PTB, but Westwood was lucky it didn't get reversed. As regards the Micky Higham thing, I think he was lucky to escape a citing, but I don't like this 'doing a Wilkin' thing. Did you watch the game on Saturday? I can't remember who it was now, but at one stage, whilst the ball was in play, Ganson asked a HKR player if he wanted to make a complaint. When the player answered in the negative Ganson simply played on.
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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"True, but in fairness you have had more practice...'"
we have had LOADS of practice in the past
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| Quote ="19 Leagues"Your only argument with me seems to be that I called Solomona over weight and overseas, which he is... so i dont see your problem? Whats the point in comparing him to Lima anyway? They are two different positions, Lima is a prop and props aren known to be abit more on the heavy side (which if you ask any regular Wigan fan, Lima isnt, and what little weight he does have for a prop, is just muscle) Solomona is more like the feka/barry ward over weight as in just plain fat. And I still stand by the matter that he wouldnt last a minute in the current Wigan side with this regime.
This is definately my last say on the matter because like I said, i feel like I am arguing with a 12 year old boy. You are just coming out with irrelevant points and making yourself look like a fool.'"
again, HOW? by stating that you would have solomona, how can you say he would not add to your set of forwards? the man is a beast, 4 players on him and he still gets a good offload away. to say that you wouldn't have him just smacks of bitterness to me, so your right, let's just leave it. I know hands down i would take sol over lima, any day of the week.
I'll sign off just like you. You 13 year old little girl.
just so you know, not every post with a view that you dont agree with is irrelevant. That's just LIFE.
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| Quote ="saintnickle34"The same reason you wanted and raved about "fat feca "for a few seasons .Feca makes solomona look anorexic.'"
Interesting isn't it that they spent all his years at wigan saying how good of a player was until maguire came in, and now they cant have a fat player in the squad. Even feka might have added something to your worthless pack on friday.
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| Quote ="Teessidewire"Rogues, I'll reply before this thread gets locked because of all the stupidity from both sides of the fence. The Westwood/Tomkins incident was 'nowt nor something,' and has only been highlighted because of the two personalities involved. I think the penalty went the right way because Tomkins was delaying the PTB, but Westwood was lucky it didn't get reversed. As regards the Micky Higham thing, I think he was lucky to escape a citing, but I don't like this 'doing a Wilkin' thing. Did you watch the game on Saturday? I can't remember who it was now, but at one stage, whilst the ball was in play, Ganson asked a HKR player if he wanted to make a complaint. When the player answered in the negative Ganson simply played on.'"
TW,
The Wilkin thing was tongue in cheek, it wasn't serious. I don't like it either. We have a referee and a video review panel for that.
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| This thread really has, well I want to say derailed, but nah thats not it. More like it has been flying oncourse at 35,000 feet then suddenly lost power to both engines and nose dived directly into the Atlantic.....!
But anyway, on to the numerous replies with regard to Solomona; yes, he does possess love handles, he is slightly overweight etc, but his value for money is second to none. He's skilful, absorbs around 3 to 4 defenders at a time, tough, defends well and is quite frankly the fittest fat knacker I've ever seen! And whats even greater, is those liability areas you associate with Feka etc are non existent. He covers gaps well, and isn't targeted because he doesn't give an inch in defence.
Therefore I'm inclined t believe that Wigan would certainly have Solomona in their squad. And this isn't an 'our squad is better than yours' reply, because I'd take a few of your players to Wire if given the chance.
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Quote ="tricky t74"joel 2 game ban for punching sam 1 game ban yet its ok for westwood to punch sam 3/4 time in the face and some one to run in and punch sam as well and they get away with it well done rfl
good Consistency (joke)'"
He has been cited www.therfl.co.uk/disciplinary/item?2452
And as this thread is just a train crash now........
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Quote ="tricky t74"joel 2 game ban for punching sam 1 game ban yet its ok for westwood to punch sam 3/4 time in the face and some one to run in and punch sam as well and they get away with it well done rfl
good Consistency (joke)'"
He has been cited www.therfl.co.uk/disciplinary/item?2452
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